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These are the kind of brainwashing, words and "techniques" that has been upon us. I'm glad there are people out there that use their time and energy to call these guys out.
SUPER HOT?? REALLY!???
Then these guys try to act like they didn't say that. Why? Because they know its wrong to say? Because it's not "Super Hot"? Because it sounds like bad wording? They tried to play it as if they never said it.
These are the kind of brainwashing, words and "techniques" that has been upon us. I'm glad there are people out there that use their time and energy to call these guys out.
SUPER HOT?? REALLY!???
Then these guys try to act like they didn't say that. Why? Because they know its wrong to say? Because it's not "Super Hot"? Because it sounds like bad wording? They tried to play it as if they never said it.
I have no major issue with them calling it "super-hot". Using the term "Record Warmth" or perhaps "Over 30F above average" would have been better but inconsequentially so. The arctic IS extremely warm compared to normal, as is much of the world right now, and as long as they don't use falsified statistics in their claims of warmth, I see no problems in this article.
Places near the North Pole are actually 30-50F above average right now.
The coldest and highest parts of the Greenland ice sheet near Summit Camp might be at -60 (which is about average there since it's high up at 10000 ft), but that's irrelevant because the region in question is different. The massive positive anomalies are situated much further north in the Arctic ocean. Global warming or not, I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with Mr. Goddard here.
Here is a post from the other thread:
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meanwhile it's nearly 50°F above at the North Pole
I have no major issue with them calling it "super-hot". Using the term "Record Warmth" or perhaps "Over 8F above average" would have been better but inconsequentially so. The arctic IS extremely warm compared to normal, as is much of the world right now, and as long as they don't use falsified statistics in their claims of warmth, I see no problems in this article.
Cambium is a climate change skeptic. What do you expect?
It's also an antithesis, a common rethorical figure, because they said it's supposed to be "super-cold" but is instead "super-hot". Sure, those wordings may be a bit unprofessional but it is true that the arctic was incredibly warm this fall.
Super hot is a wrong phrase to use, but the anomalies are still staggering. And doesn't the Arctic have like some 38 consecutive months above average on its belt?
Super hot is a wrong phrase to use, but the anomalies are still staggering. And doesn't the Arctic have like some 38 consecutive months above average on its belt?
It's worrisome yes. It's definitely not super hot but "too mild" is a better description. I don't know what's going on with the Arctic now, having heard some encouragement about increasing summer ice packs one summer a few years back I thought it was heading in the right direction again
last month ostrov vize (arctic russia) had a monthly temperature deviation of +16C/29F, yet it averaged -4.5C/24F, so we shouldn't call it mild, right?
last month ostrov vize (arctic russia) had a monthly temperature deviation of +16C/29F, yet it averaged -4.5C/24F, so we shouldn't call it mild, right?
Relative to the average, it would indeed be extremely mild. That kind of deviation is crazy, though - don't think that's ever happened around here!
However, out of context I would certainly not call that temperature mild. I'd lean towards "very cold" for that temperature.
Edit to add: I agree with Cambium's statement about the lack of professionalism in professional weather reports. The media just loves to sensationalize everything to make it fit their own agenda. This is also where the nonsense alarmist global warming predictions are coming from. Are we at my location really going to have the climate of Kentucky by the end of the century?
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Why? Because they know its wrong to say? Because it's not "Super Hot"? Because it sounds like bad wording? They tried to play it as if they never said it. 
Those that defend that statement are becoming transparent for sure.
