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Old 04-01-2017, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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Hi everyone, I am doing a research paper. I would love to know your opinions if it is ethical or otherwise ok for scientists or weather stations to accelerate forecasts of climate change and sea level rise in order to push people to take action now. The data would otherwise be accurate, however, more aggressive in timing so as to influence behavior. Do you think this is happening? Is this ok and even encouraged and necessary or not. What are your thoughts and comments? All feedback welcomed.
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Old 04-01-2017, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Rochester, NY
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Nope. A science agency that is supposed to be respected should never ever publish anything that's not wholly truthful. Politicized science is a terrible idea, they should not publish not completely correct data to push their agendas. If it comes out that they are being over agressive on timing, it will only increase opposition. Now I'm all for stopping global warming, but this isn't the answer.
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Old 04-01-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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I dont think its okay.
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Old 04-01-2017, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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Any false information sets a dangerous precedent so by default that's the wrong thing to do.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:20 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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No. You could present "this is the worst that could happen" but make it clear that you're using a deliberate exaggeration.
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Old 04-02-2017, 02:47 AM
 
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No.
The liberal/establishment media has been doing this for quite some time since the early-mid 2000s, giving predictions of a 4-6 C rise in global temps by 2100 from ca 2005 levels when that is just the high end of the predictions with the median at 2.5-3 C or so. This caused a backlash from conservatives, conspiracy theorists and the mass populace who didn't care to read through the actual papers and just dismissed everything as a hoax. Just look at Donald Trump and his supporters if this wasn't obvious to you already.
In order words, all propaganda tends to produce the opposite of the author's intention once seen for what it is. This applies even if you have good intentions in mind.
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: 44N 89W
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Nope. A science agency that is supposed to be respected should never ever publish anything that's not wholly truthful. Politicized science is a terrible idea, they should not publish not completely correct data to push their agendas. If it comes out that they are being over agressive on timing, it will only increase opposition. Now I'm all for stopping global warming, but this isn't the answer.
Exactly. I don't even know why this is a question. We don't falsify mathematics to prove a point, do we?
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Hi everyone, I am doing a research paper. I would love to know your opinions if it is ethical or otherwise ok for scientists or weather stations to accelerate forecasts of climate change and sea level rise in order to push people to take action now. The data would otherwise be accurate, however, more aggressive in timing so as to influence behavior. Do you think this is happening? Is this ok and even encouraged and necessary or not. What are your thoughts and comments? All feedback welcomed.
Are you crazy? That is NOT science. That is making a projection...that is not a fact...how do you know it is accurate unless you wait to see if that happens?

Too many people hold science in low regard as it is - why would you politicize it?

And no - I don't think "accelerated forecasts" are happening now.

BTW - at the most, your paper will be an opinion piece. Taking a convenience sample from the web is by no means "research". See what people say who frequent FoxNews.
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Bad idea. In order to win over the public, the tone of the message that is sent across has to be managed. If the predictions come across as too extreme, then the general public will start to believe that they're simply scaremongering. It's important to convey realistic predictions, that don;t seem too far-fetched, otherwise people will be alienated.
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Old 04-18-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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thank you for all your replies
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