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We don't ignore it, we acknowledge it. A large part of the Eastern US is much further south than Eastern Europe. If you are going to compare them, are you only going to compare latitude to latitude? If that is the case then don't say "Eastern US", say northern half of the US. Otherwise, it makes it seems as if even the lousy climates of Eastern Europe are better than the eastern half of the US which is ludicrous. Where in Eastern Europe do you have climates like south Texas or Florida or the Gulf Coast or the Southeast Atlantic Coast. Only Greece and and a tiny sliver of Croatia. So it makes it seem as if the the whole of the Eastern US is a cold hole and ignores all the subtropical climates there.
The other thing is I need to see climate data from reliable national meteo agencies and not wiki when it comes to Bulgaria and other places there. Just looking at Plovdiv, the wiki description says the Jan mean is 31F, while the table shows it to be 33.6F.
Just compare the wiki table for Plovdiv with this write up below:
Winter is normally cold and snow is common. The average number of days with snow cover in Plovdiv is 33. The average depth of snow cover is 2 to 4 cm (1 to 2 in) and the maximum is normally 6 to 13 cm (2 to 5 in), but in some winters it can reach 70 cm (28 in) or more. Average January temperature is −0.4 °C (31 °F).
They have double the number of days with snow cover than we do, and a colder Jan mean, but the table shows otherwise.
The reference for the table comes from a Danish meteo book and "climatebase". What are those? Where is the data from their national meteo agency in accordance with WMO standards?
Exactly, otherwise we get into the ridiculous situation of cherry picking the worst of one place versus the best of another place.
Then, to add salt into an open wound, we have the bizarre step of choosing a few horrible climates from a third place that wasn't even in the original question (i.e., Canada) in a misguided attempt to support an arbitrary position. It's like this:
Quote:
"I think Eastern Europe has a better climate than Eastern USA."
"Oh that's interesting, why do you think that?"
"Because Saint Petersburg is warmer than Churchill."
"But isn't Churchill in Canada?"
"Yes but, Miami is south of Athens."
That's an easy way to flunk your 6th grade geography class.
difficult one -although I think i'd take the southern half of eastern Europe to be on the safe side ,knowing i will get the 2,200 or more ideal hours - the sunshine figures are too unreliable for USA -I don't trust their readings . I wonder if they have also made up figures for their temperatures too ??
difficult one -although I think i'd take the southern half of eastern Europe to be on the safe side ,knowing i will get the 2,200 or more ideal hours - the sunshine figures are too unreliable for USA -I don't trust their readings . I wonder if they have also made up figures for their temperatures too ??
Try these instead. They're measured in kilowatt-hours so less prone to bias. Note however the colours on the scales are different!
good try Eddie lad ,but theyre not sun hours a such - more like sun strength . The whole world and his dog knows that Sweden is sunnier than northern Spain .
That European map is also on the wonk somewhat lol
As the sun doesn't properly warm above a certain latitude in winter, every sun ray and accumulation is 0 and regarded as negative irradiation.
But if we take "Eastern Europe" in an Eurocentric way, the first 20 longitudes are western, the next 20 central, and next 20 eastern. Then the range would be from the "arm" of Finland (Tirana in the south) to the Russian-Georgian border.
Vast majority of Eastern Europe is cold and snowy in winter, mediocre summers, and blah sun hours, except for the sliver of Croatia, Albania, and the southern portion of Greece. Maybe half or slightly more than half of the Eastern US is cold and snowy in winter, with blah sun hours and mediocre summers. But for instance you have to go to southern Bulgaria to get as warm as where I live, and I'm in the cold and snowy part of the US. The Eastern US has a more expansive area of warmer winters, better summers, and more sunshine.
You have to go to far southern Eastern Europe like Crete to get a Jan mean equal to New Orleans or Jacksonville, FL.
difficult one -although I think i'd take the southern half of eastern Europe to be on the safe side ,knowing i will get the 2,200 or more ideal hours - the sunshine figures are too unreliable for USA -I don't trust their readings . I wonder if they have also made up figures for their temperatures too ??
Let me know when Greece can grow coconut palms then lol. Our temps are in accordance with WMO standards you can read that for yourself on the NOAA home page. And we don't take sun hours anymore anyway. Wanna bet Philly has hundreds more sun hours than anywhere in England? I dare you to spend a year here and year there and tell me otherwise.
Also a different number of years for each. The record for the US is longer than Europe.
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