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Old 09-21-2017, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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We've had 35 Januaries that were warmer than your warmest, and 4 that were colder than your coldest.
Bridgeport only back to 1948, sorry forgot to mention. But still.. Looks like 2 Januaries were colder than my coldest and a bunch of warmer than my warmest since then.


In fact....... Lexington has only been colder 5 times for Winter Avg temps..


1950-51
1976-77
1977-78
1978-79
2009-10


1977-78 was the biggest gap. 28.1 here. 25.4 there.


All those years were El Nino or Neutral. None La Nina


So basically you've never had a colder Winter than here during La Nina. Since we are having a La Nina winter this yr, the odds are stacked against that.
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Why would it be an odd occurrence?

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Old 09-21-2017, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Central Louisiana
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NOAA's winter outlook released today.



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Old 09-21-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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NOAA's winter outlook released today
Me like. Lake Effect Snow Machines getting recharged right now as the September heat is warming those lakes. Like that dip look to that
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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NOAA's winter outlook released today.


Warm and not wet for AZ, works for me 😁👍
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Central Louisiana
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Maybe the core of the warmth will be more centered over the SW U.S.
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:17 PM
 
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70 degrees in Fresno today.

19+ below average

Snow in the sierras already!

I'm expecting colder than avg winter. Weather models be damned.
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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70 degrees in Fresno today.

19+ below average

Snow in the sierras already!

I'm expecting colder than avg winter. Weather models be damned.
Sept of 07 had a cool snap at the end of the month in the west, and the 07-08 winter was not particularly cold or warm in the west
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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January 1950 was the warmest on record here too. The average high & low was 70/53F.
Since I'm only in my mid 20s, I've never even looked much at data that far back. Our NWS station was in a different location (downtown versus a suburb).

1950/51 was the snowiest year in recorded history here with over 80" of snow.

1949/50 was the 8th worst (warmest) winter season on record since 1870, and the 4th worst (least snow) with only 22.3".

Looked at our coldest Januaries and some are outright brutal.

1977 - 11.7
1940 - 17.4
1918 - 18.6
1912 - 19.3
1981 - 20.5
1970 - 20.7
1982 - 20.9
1963 - 21.1
1994 - 21.1
1978 - 21.4

I was only alive for one, 1994. Thats when we hit our all time record at -22. I can't even imagine the lows of January 1977. Must have been a solid icebox. Checked, and that's the averages of northern Minnesota (Duluth) in their coldest month.

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Old 09-22-2017, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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Since I'm only in my mid 20s, I've never even looked much at data that far back. Our NWS station was in a different location (downtown versus a suburb).

1950/51 was the snowiest year in recorded history here with over 80" of snow.

1949/50 was the 8th worst (warmest) winter season on record since 1870, and the 4th worst (least snow) with only 22.3".

Looked at our coldest Januaries and some are outright brutal.

1977 - 11.7
1940 - 17.4
1918 - 18.6
1912 - 19.3
1981 - 20.5
1970 - 20.7
1982 - 20.9
1963 - 21.1
1994 - 21.1
1978 - 21.4

I was only alive for one, 1994. Thats when we hit our all time record at -22. I can't even imagine the lows of January 1977. Must have been a solid icebox. Checked, and that's the averages of northern Minnesota (Duluth) in their coldest month.
Found the data for that month. The average high was 18.6 and the average low was 4.1 . Maximum was 31 and minimum was -17. That is truly unbelievable for Pittsburgh. The monthly max was 4 degrees lower than the average high of 35. There were 13 days below 0. 3 days with a mean below 0. And 2 highs below 0. Every maximum and minimum were below. The month was 15.1 below the mean.
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