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Old 12-19-2017, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Yeah, I trust my body over numbers. I trust my 30+ years of living in the Bay Area, looking at the temperature gauges in my car, and on signs I pass on the road. I trust my wardrobe, and comfort levels during each season. These are ALL more accurate gauges than a list of "means" and "max/min" temperatures on some website... and I don't care how many times you say it, that won't change my actual, living experiences of how San Francisco weather really is. Sorry!

And if you really did know anything about California weather, you'd know that San Diego is famous for being mild and temperate; meaning it's almost always the same temperature, year-round, at least on the coast. The Bay Area is fairly temperate too, but has more fluctuations than SD - hence the higher MAXIMUM (which is rare) mean temps. Also, it can easily top 100F on a regular basis once you get like 5 miles inland from the San Diego coast. Dude, seriously.
No, its you that needs to get serious not me. Basically you are yet another person falling into the trap of misconceptions about climates and are in complete denial about it. Nothing will change the FACT that I'm the correct one here. Surely we should be going by actual temperatures, rather than feels like temperatures otherwise there are no facts, only opinions. The professional weather stations will be more accurate than your car thermometer. Comment all you like about the UK climate and I might correct you or say you are correct.
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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No, its you that needs to get serious not me. Basically you are yet another person falling into the trap of misconceptions about climates and are in complete denial about it. Nothing will change the FACT that I'm the correct one here. Comment all you like about the UK climate and I might correct you or say you are correct.
Yeah, okay. Because you know sooo much more than someone WHO'S FREAKING LIVED HERE for 30+ years. As I said, I'm done - so you can stop trying to engage me now.
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Okay... now you're calling me dumb, so I'm done arguing (and you're lucky I'm not reporting you right now). Keep trying, but everyone from SF will be laughing at you.
They probably will laugh, because just like here in the UK where most people think everywhere is rainy and cold, they are in complete denial. So I don't care. Computers will always know better than anyone.
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Yeah, okay. Because you know sooo much more than someone WHO'S FREAKING LIVED HERE for 30+ years. As I said, I'm done - so you can stop trying to engage me now.
I won't stop, because I'm correct. And no I do not know more - I am simply giving the facts. My perception would not change regardless of if I lived there because I am giving facts, not opinions which you seem to be obsessed with. No one can have an opinion of how hot/cold/sunny/cloudy/wet/dry somewhere is, because all these are facts set in stone.
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Yup! This is why we ALWAYS carry a coat, even if it's nice and sunny when we leave the house... because if/when that fog does roll in, you'll seriously regret not having one. And not to harp on the debate I've been having with wilkinson, but this is also why weather sites aren't always accurate for us. It might say "75F" on the site, or even the local weather towers; but that fog can make it FEEL so much colder. Like down-to-the-bones chilly, because of the added moisture.
But we should be going by facts, so if somewhere reaches 75F, its 75F and hot.
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Old 12-19-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Yes, it was a particularly hot year for us... as you mentioned already, we topped 100F (118F in South County) in September, which shattered almost every record in the region. So this isn't the best measure of "average" or "typical," by any means.

FYI: I only track our weather in real-time, using a combination of my iPhone, car gauges, and occasionally local TV or radio forecasts. These are likely much more accurate than any non-local website, especially when that fog rolls in unexpectedly - it can go from pleasant to BRRRR in a moment!
But I'd argue that this is the new normal, with climate change and the warming of the Earth
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Old 12-19-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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I think from these posters I've realised something else and probably something people haven't realised I am arguing about. That's that people often have misconceptions about their OWN climate where they live more than anything else, all because of stereotypes. E.g. UK and SF.
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Old 12-19-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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I do agree in that people for whatever reason will exaggerate their own climate even though they live there. I know a guy from Arizona who claims that it gets to 130F on a yearly bases even though the record high for his city is 128F. I've seen people state the wind chill as the actual temperature as well(mostly in cold climates). So it can happen. I am not sure if the person from San Francisco is doing that however.
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Old 12-19-2017, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Not for Australian standards though.

Melbourne is also sunny by world's standards, but yet it gets the flak here for being rather cloudy.
well that's because Australia is very sunny overall.

I would not call a place with more than 50% sunshine a cloudy place, but that's me. For instance I don't think I live in a particularly cloudy place, in the end it's mostly cloudy in the cold season (and it's sunny every day this week despite being cold)
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Old 12-19-2017, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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I do agree in that people for whatever reason will exaggerate their own climate even though they live there. I know a guy from Arizona who claims that it gets to 130F on a yearly bases even though the record high for his city is 128F. I've seen people state the wind chill as the actual temperature as well(mostly in cold climates). So it can happen. I am not sure if the person from San Francisco is doing that however.
There are many people here who claim they haven't seen the sun for weeks after having 2 really crappy days that followed a whole nice week. People just remember what they want. It's called perception.

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