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Old 01-08-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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But they are not compared to most other countries. I grew up in Portsmouth, on the sunniest stretch of coast in the UK, but now I live in Malta I can really see how truly awful even the best British climates are. You are used to receiving little sunshine & cool temperatures so you think that is normal, it isn't, it is worse than much of the rest of the world.

"much worse than the rest of the world"? but what if those summer temps in other countries are so hot and humid that is ruins the sunshine factor? Sweating just walking a few blocks is not fun.

I spent Thanksgiving in Palm Springs and it was 90F every day and 65F at night and it was perfect. Never sweat once and was in short sleeves and shorts the whole time. Only felt hot in bright sunshine, but that would never be the case here in summer. So, just because a place is sunnier than the UK in summer doesn't mean it is more pleasant or enjoyable.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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What does Southampton, NY, get? Must be like 2,500?

minus 200 for a flawed sunshine measuring system.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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For 90% to be less than 10%, you’d need an extremely cloudless polar winter climate. Only over an ice sheet?
Just proves the inconsistency. Monthly percent sun only works near the equator, it does not work at high latitudes.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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"much worse than the rest of the world"? but what if those summer temps in other countries are so hot and humid that is ruins the sunshine factor? Sweating just walking a few blocks is not fun.

I spent Thanksgiving in Palm Springs and it was 90F every day and 65F at night and it was perfect. Never sweat once and was in short sleeves and shorts the whole time. Only felt hot in bright sunshine, but that would never be the case here in summer. So, just because a place is sunnier than the UK in summer doesn't mean it is more pleasant or enjoyable.
exactly.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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That 57% of daylight hours, vs 21% of a 24 hour day. Shanklin, IOW gets 55% sun during daylight hours in July

If that is true NYC is barely sunnier than the south coast of the UK. Interesting.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Just proves the inconsistency. Monthly percent sun only works near the equator, it does not work at high latitudes.
So if March at Trondheim records 33% of sunshine, does that mean that it actually gets more/less than that percentage?
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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minus 200 for a flawed sunshine measuring system.
Even the cloudy hellhole known as Upstate NY gets more sunshine hours than anywhere in the British isles, even after you subtract 200 hours. If Binghamton is enough to drive me up the walls with the endless clouds I can only imagine how bad somewhere like London is
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Not sure about the coldest on record but parts of southern Europe had the coldest January for some time last year. In Malta it was the coldest for 25 years...

In the UK I think the coldest January on record was in 1987.
The coldest January in England was 1795 with a mean temperature of -3.1C. The coldest January of the 20th century was 1963, with a mean temperature of -2.1C. January 1987 had a mean temperature of 0.8C, making it the 44th coldest January in England since 1659, and something like the 6th coldest January of the 20th century. It got very, very cold early in the month but it didn't last long.

For comparison's sake, the coldest January of the 21st century was 2010 with a mean temperature of 1.4C.

I'm using England since the most readily available data is from the Central England Temperature series.
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Even the cloudy hellhole known as Upstate NY gets more sunshine hours than anywhere in the British isles, even after you subtract 200 hours. If Binghamton is enough to drive me up the walls with the endless clouds I can only imagine how bad somewhere like London is
Upstate New York is only cloudy in winter. During the rest of the year it's not even remotely cloudy.

London is home to millions of people from all over the world, including some of the sunniest and hottest climates on earth. You get used to it. Cloudiness really isn't the be all and end all.

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Old 01-08-2018, 12:41 PM
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Upstate New York is rather cloudy second half of fall. November is cloudier than February by percent and late October is mediocre
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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To me, New York City is sunny in all months of the year, except December.
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