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Old 02-06-2018, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Yawn as far as that cold goes. Ain't nothing. I should post a the map from earlier in Jan when we went down to 4F lol.
Not sure what your point is? The US is always colder even at more southerly latitudes than places in Europe. The only places in Europe guaranteed severe cold are in Scandinavia & eastern Europe, apart from moutainous areas...

 
Old 02-06-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Not sure what your point is? The US is always colder even at more southerly latitudes than places in Europe. The only places in Europe guaranteed severe cold are in Scandinavia & eastern Europe, apart from moutainous areas...

It was an observation in response to george and his relentless posting of maps showing all this cold coming to Western Europe. Again check his posts. So when I saw the maps it was just a big yawn like big deal. He should post temp maps and not anomaly maps as they are very misleading. Bastardi does the same thing to show cold biases.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Charleston is on the North American east coast. Nice is in Western Europe. You can't compare both. Compare west coast to Western Europe, east coast to Eastern Europe.

I can compare whatever I want. Look at the latitude differences. Charleston is much further South so it should at least stay a little warmer than London or Nice, jeez.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I'm not saying that's going to happen. The GFS is. Whether it's right or wrong is to be determined. Interestingly Judah Cohen thinks it's right.



https://www.aer.com/science-research...c-oscillation/

GFS deterministic is crap. Is the Euro calling for a pv split?
 
Old 02-06-2018, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Today's maximum temperatures across Europe...
 
Old 02-06-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Geez Tom you're like a broken record. Btw Nice made it down to the 20s last year, I guess it was cold in Europe then?
 
Old 02-06-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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I can compare whatever I want. Look at the latitude differences. Charleston is much further South so it should at least stay a little warmer than London or Nice, jeez.
Well on average it is. Of course the winter weather is much less stable over there (Charleston) but then what's new.


Still it was quite cold in the last few days in most of Europe but it was just normal winter weather, even though some parts of central Europe were quite a bit below average. That -4c high near Francfort is still noticeable. But yeah, hard to see -20c lows aside from Scandinavia / mountainous areas.

I guess substantial cold is getting less common recently so any colder than average spell (even slightly) becomes emphasized by the media, maybe you're right on this.


I'm not talking about the whole continent, but at least here, warmer than average weather is a lot more common than colder than average weather, in the recent years at least. The former decade saw quite a few serious cold waves though, it's just the current one that's weak in that department. Maybe next one.
 
Old 02-07-2018, 02:01 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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It has been cold here this week, highs of around 5C and lows a couple of degrees below freezing, we have even had some snow flurries, ultimately though its just a few degrees below the 'average' and it is the coldest time of the year. I just sometimes wonder if 'some' news agencies (Daily Fail) or some forecasters tend to over-dramatise things a tad.
 
Old 02-07-2018, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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10 cm of snow in Paris apparently

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Old 02-07-2018, 04:51 AM
 
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GFS deterministic is crap. Is the Euro calling for a pv split?


Actually yes


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