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our late summer was cloudier than usual, but warmer; not really a sign of less solar radiation just a regional pattern of a warm & wet airmass. The planet overall wasn't cooler and cloudier, it's just a regional pattern of cloudiness so solar radiation doesn't make sense IMO.
Increased solar radiation = more evaporation. So a quiet sun means more clouds. Of course not every single area will experience this.
I'll send you some peer reviewed studies via PM when I have the chance.
How do you know the planet wasn't cloudier than normal? And there is a lag time. The sun doesnt control a regional climate pattern only.
I sure LOVE the humid subtropical climate of Fort Worth Texas, I’m thinking about possibly extending my stay a day or so longer than I originally planned.
I dont get it. This year is having a Top 10 warmups for this time of year?? Is he talking about entire U.S? Even still, it doesnt seem like we have a big warm anomaly going on.
Is an interesting stat though regarding rest of winter.
My guess is that it's the difference between the cold and warm anomalies rather than the magnitude of each one (i.e. going from -10F to +5F would be a bigger warmup than going from 0 to +10F).
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I'm in Central Alabama, which in the broad scheme of things, is very comparable to y'all in Athens, GA.
As a firm believer that it should be cold at Christmas, like you, I had pretty much lost all faith in traditional Christmas weather after the horrific blowtorches of 2015 and 2016. Thankfully, we rebounded last Christmas with a very nice day in the 40s, with a low around freezing. Granted, it was no 1983 or 1989 (look those up! ) but highs in the 40s, lows around freezing are definitely respectable.
All the models seem to indicate that this Christmas Eve/Christmas will be warmer than normal, but certainly no blowtorch. We are still a week out. I have noticed that this time of year, when it stays cloudy all day, the actual high temp ends up outkicking the coverage (from a cold perspective). Case in point - this past Saturday, the high was forecast to be around 60, but the Sun never came out, so it stayed chilly and 53, 54 all day. Perhaps the same will hold true for the 24th and 25th.
Best wishes for a cool Christmas, my friend!
Hideous weather. Absolutely hideous - an excellent illustration* as to why one should be deep within the "white Christmas in average year" zone if one wants cold and snowy Christmases. Anywhere near the edge just isn't reliable enough - even an 80% chance means 2 out of 10 Christmases will be brown, and who needs that?
*Although the blowtorches a few years ago were far worse than this year will be; some models I've seen show snow across the entire Great Lakes watershed and upstate NY which wasn't the case the other years.
Yep. If I had to guess we're probably flipping back to the earlier cold/stormy pattern sometime in early January. If it's like most of the other years that have had December warmups and January cooldowns it likely will continue through February.
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Another rainstorm Friday coming.
Before that storm this is the Jet stream pattern mid this week. Lacking true cold inside the trough
Not much warmth under the ridge, not much cold under the trough - weird pattern if you ask me.
My guess is that it's the difference between the cold and warm anomalies rather than the magnitude of each one (i.e. going from -10F to +5F would be a bigger warmup than going from 0 to +10F).
Hideous weather. Absolutely hideous - an excellent illustration* as to why one should be deep within the "white Christmas in average year" zone if one wants cold and snowy Christmases. Anywhere near the edge just isn't reliable enough - even an 80% chance means 2 out of 10 Christmases will be brown, and who needs that?
*Although the blowtorches a few years ago were far worse than this year will be; some models I've seen show snow across the entire Great Lakes watershed and upstate NY which wasn't the case the other years.
Yep. If I had to guess we're probably flipping back to the earlier cold/stormy pattern sometime in early January. If it's like most of the other years that have had December warmups and January cooldowns it likely will continue through February.
Not much warmth under the ridge, not much cold under the trough - weird pattern if you ask me.
Due to the quiet sun, I feel that the Midwest and Great Plains are in danger of becoming a subarctic climate, which is even worse than what anthropogenic climate change would have caused
Plenty of cooler weather for my area and above normal clouds this month. Oct and Nov were a blazer and very dry and then this month is like the whole world changed. Near 6" of rain so far and more to come in about 2 days. I hope this can keep up until end of March.
Plenty of cooler weather for my area and above normal clouds this month. Oct and Nov were a blazer and very dry and then this month is like the whole world changed. Near 6" of rain so far and more to come in about 2 days. I hope this can keep up until end of March.
Are there any suitable weather stations on Wikipedia for your location? I reckon it's a bit warmer than Tampa Bay?
Are there any suitable weather stations on Wikipedia for your location? I reckon it's a bit warmer than Tampa Bay?
I am a tiny bit cooler in the winter than the airport in Tampa where i used to live. But i am right on the gulf so i am warmer than inland temps by about 3 to 6 degrees. Not sure of any good weather stations around me. Tampabay is south southeast of me about 24 miles.
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) but highs in the 40s, lows around freezing are definitely respectable.
