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Old 10-11-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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Probably if we consider the 0 ° C isotherm, Mountain View, MO is the southernmost city with a humid continental climate at a non elevated altitude. Look at this map: https://www.plantmaps.com/koppen-cli...ted-states.php. The Kansas-Oklahoma border is further north.

Statistics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mounta...ssouri#Climate
https://en.climate-data.org/america-...n-view-131790/
https://www.weatherforyou.com/report...=1&dosubmit=Go
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Southern West Virginia
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Elevation there is 1,142 ft, and I’m pretty sure that is in the Ozark Mountains. I wouldn’t really consider that non-elevated.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:50 PM
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Elevation there is 1,142 ft, and I’m pretty sure that is in the Ozark Mountains. I wouldn’t really consider that non-elevated.
Just over 1,000 ft elevation in the western USA would be considered low elevation,
about the same elevation as Phoenix, a low desert city in Arizona.

Yuma, Arizona is slightly warmer than Phoenix though,
as Yuma is lower....under 200 ft above sea level.

Much of the western US is at a much higher elevation than 1,142 ft.
Lowest elevations of a few states much higher....

Around 3,300 ft for both Colorado and Wyoming....
about 2,800 ft for New Mexico...2,000 ft for Utah...even 1,900 ft for Montana.

So, I consider it to be “low elevation” (not much different than Atlanta).

OP should have used term “low elevation”, rather than “non-elevated”.

Anyway, pretty cool to have a Dfa climate at about 36N....same latitude as Malta.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:38 AM
 
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I am considering a plateau altitude up to 1640 ft. There is still so much difference, the northeast Cape Girerdeau at 322 ft is the next boundary of a waterway. Although to the east on the Missisipi River the altitudes are the same is Cfa
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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Just over 1,000 ft elevation in the western USA would be considered low elevation,
about the same elevation as Phoenix, a low desert city in Arizona.

Yuma, Arizona is slightly warmer than Phoenix though,
as Yuma is lower....under 200 ft above sea level.

Much of the western US is at a much higher elevation than 1,142 ft.
Lowest elevations of a few states much higher....

Around 3,300 ft for both Colorado and Wyoming....
about 2,800 ft for New Mexico...2,000 ft for Utah...even 1,900 ft for Montana.

So, I consider it to be “low elevation” (not much different than Atlanta).

OP should have used term “low elevation”, rather than “non-elevated”.

Anyway, pretty cool to have a Dfa climate at about 36N....same latitude as Malta.
In Europe the minimum is 43 °N o Dfa, but this is in European Russia. Belgrade in Serbia further north the climate is still Cfa, which I am considering the 0 ° C isotherm, the average is 1.4 ° C in the coldest month.
I believe that by excluding the country of Putin, the city of Novi Sad, Serbia is the limit of the subtropical climate at 45 °N. It's hard to imagine Saint John, NB with a Cfa climate. For illustration only for comparison purposes. Northern Poland would be Dfc.

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Old 10-12-2018, 12:16 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Just over 1,000 ft elevation in the western USA would be considered low elevation,
about the same elevation as Phoenix, a low desert city in Arizona.

Yuma, Arizona is slightly warmer than Phoenix though,
as Yuma is lower....under 200 ft above sea level.

Much of the western US is at a much higher elevation than 1,142 ft.
Lowest elevations of a few states much higher....

Around 3,300 ft for both Colorado and Wyoming....
about 2,800 ft for New Mexico...2,000 ft for Utah...even 1,900 ft for Montana.

So, I consider it to be “low elevation” (not much different than Atlanta).

OP should have used term “low elevation”, rather than “non-elevated”.

Anyway, pretty cool to have a Dfa climate at about 36N....same latitude as Malta.
It shows just how bad the climate of North America is when you can have a continental climate st 36N. At the same latitude inland South America and Australia you have these places which are infinitely better in my opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_..._Pampa#Climate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendigo#Climate
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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It shows just how bad the climate of North America is when you can have a continental climate st 36N. At the same latitude inland South America and Australia you have these places which are infinitely better in my opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_..._Pampa#Climate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendigo#Climate
Warmth bias aren't you? "Better" for you may not be better for someone else.
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:03 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Warmth bias aren't you? "Better" for you may not be better for someone else.
I did say in my opinion. Besides, even for those who like cold, North America isn't the best anyway. East Asia and Siberia are better for that.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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Although not a fair comparison but to show the extremes of different climates

Almeria, Spain - 36.8 N


West Plains, MO (near Mountain View) - 36.7 N
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Syrmia, Northern Serbia, near 45 N
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In Europe the minimum is 43 °N o Dfa, but this is in European Russia. Belgrade in Serbia further north the climate is still Cfa, which I am considering the 0 ° C isotherm, the average is 1.4 ° C in the coldest month.
I believe that by excluding the country of Putin, the city of Novi Sad, Serbia is the limit of the subtropical climate at 45 °N. It's hard to imagine Saint John, NB with a Cfa climate. For illustration only for comparison purposes. Northern Poland would be Dfc.
Both Belgrade and Novi Sad are near 45 N.
The coldest month in Belgrade is 1,4c and in Novi Sad is 0,2c.
Belgrade is warmer due to stronger urbanization (Belgrade is bigger than Novi Sad).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Sad#Climate

Interesting Zaječar in eastern Serbia are on 44 N and has -0,2c in the coldest month https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaječar#Climate

All of them Belgrade, Novi Sad and Zaječar are on the similar elevation.

Zaječar is more southern than Belgrade and Novi Sad and it's colder in winter. Because it's located more eastern than Belgrade and Novi Sad and in the winter is more often under the cold air which cames from eastern Europe over the Wallachian plain.
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