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Old 02-24-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Yes, L.A. trees can look just like trees in New York or Boston in January. It depends on the type of tree though. It can look a bit like it does in the North during those March-April warm episodes where it might be high 70s but everything still looks wintry. Except all the palm trees in L.A. kinda ruin that image.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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LA has summer year round. Trees loose their leaves with 20C highs in winter! Even Malaga is green year-round with 17C winter highs! SF has 2 seasons, summer which lasts from May to October and Spring which lasts from November to April.
During the summer almost all grass is brown in LA unless it's irrigated. The countrysides are all golden brown. After a February rain everything is green green green.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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LA has summer year round. Trees loose their leaves with 20C highs in winter! Even Malaga is green year-round with 17C winter highs! SF has 2 seasons, summer which lasts from May to October and Spring which lasts from November to April.
Nope. 20C ain't no summer temps for anyone.

West Hollywood, Pasadena, Eagle Rock, Thousand Oaks and Westlake Village had snow few days ago...

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/bit-snow-los-angeles-suddenly-it-s-snowmaggedon-n974306[/url]

And yes, of course deciduous trees lose their leaves ... have you ever been there? Have you seen winter pics of LA? This is all inside LA, the place you claim to be summer year round... that's plain bs, and SF has a long, cool winter.







I can see clearly fall and winter colors there. And it's LA.

Sure, most trees in LA or Malaga are evergreen species, as most of their flowers, and lots of their greeny areas are made of palm trees which are, of course, green year round. Winter rain and summer irrigation makes their grass green as well. But deciduous species lose their leaves, like it or not.

Both places registered temps under 0C during winter months. That's winter. Both experienced snowfall inside their downtown areas. That's winter. Ok, in both places the last downtown snow event happened about 70 years ago... but it happened. So that's winter.

Mediterranean climates are not tropical, lol.

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Old 02-24-2019, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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LA has summer year round. Trees loose their leaves with 20C highs in winter! Even Malaga is green year-round with 17C winter highs! SF has 2 seasons, summer which lasts from May to October and Spring which lasts from November to April.
Malaga is chilly in winter and has seen snow before .
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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I don't live in Los Angeles and never have, but is this a pretty accurate take on L.A. weather? Please make any corrections as needed.
  • Spring: February through June (5 months)
  • Summer: July through October (4 months)
  • Fall: November (1 month)
  • Winter: December and January (2 months)
  • Lots of seasonal lag in the spring and summer
  • Almost no fall goes quickly from summer (high of 85F) to winter (high of 65F) in the span of a month
  • Takes forever to warm up over the spring months
  • "June gloom" is a real thing, with June days often being cloudy/foggy and struggling to get out of the 60s F, especially near the ocean, while much of the rest of the country is already in the 80s and 90s F
  • Winter days are often cool, rainy, and cloudy, with those days being stuck in the upper 50s and lower 60s F but interspersed with warmer, sunnier days (70s F) and even a few hotter days here and there
  • Winter weather, whether it's more of a sunnier/warmer winter or a rainier/cooler winter, depends on if it's an El Nio year or a La Nia year
  • It's still peak summer heat in October and early November, when the rest of the country is already deep in the throes of fall
This is true of Coastal LA, where all the tourists go to, but farther inland where all the cheap housing is, that is a much different story. San Bernardino and Riverside have brutally hot, smoggy, rainless summers that make any summer day in New Orleans seem like a cakewalk.

Also, you forgot to include the nasty Santa Ana winds. They're rare along the coast, but over in Riverside and San Bernardino counties, these winds can blow anytime from September to April, bringing 80 mile per hour gusts and single digit humidity and very high wildfire risk.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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My nasty summers would make LA blush and roll over and die. With my 75 to 85f dew points them people would kill themselfs.
San Bernardino's brutal triple digit temps, rainless, breezeless, cloudless, smog-choked summers would smother all you Floridians and Gulf Coasters in a day.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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This is true of Coastal LA, where all the tourists go to, but farther inland where all the cheap housing is, that is a much different story. San Bernardino and Riverside have brutally hot, smoggy, rainless summers that make any summer day in New Orleans seem like a cakewalk.

Also, you forgot to include the nasty Santa Ana winds. They're rare along the coast, but over in Riverside and San Bernardino counties, these winds can blow anytime from September to April, bringing 80 mile per hour gusts and single digit humidity and very high wildfire risk.
Please. A couple years ago, I was in Chino (which as you know is well inland) in August, and the high was only 84F, thanks to onshore winds. Try getting that in New Orleans without rain and 75F dewpoints......
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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Please. A couple years ago, I was in Chino (which as you know is well inland) in August, and the high was only 84F, thanks to onshore winds. Try getting that in New Orleans without rain and 75F dewpoints......
Nice try. Average August highs in Corona are at least 91 to 92 degrees, as per all weather station reports. It only gets hotter as you go further inland. And nice and breezy summers in Chino? Heh heh. If it was really so nice and breezy in the summer there why does San Bernardino and Riverside Counties get the worst smog in the nation, especially in the summer? Not even Northern Irvine in August receives much of a sea breeze.

Stop trying to cherry pick the best days and ignoring any hot days.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Nice try. Average August highs in Corona are at least 91 to 92 degrees, as per all weather station reports. It only gets hotter as you go further inland. And nice and breezy summers in Chino? Heh heh. If it was really so nice and breezy in the summer there why does San Bernardino and Riverside Counties get the worst smog in the nation, especially in the summer? Not even Northern Irvine in August receives much of a sea breeze.

Stop trying to cherry pick the best days and ignoring any hot days.
I know what the averages are, but that doesn't mean it's that warm every day

Do you remember the summer of 2010? For most of the summer, the coast was only having highs in the 60s, the basin only had highs in the 70s, and the valleys were only having highs in the 80s most of the summer, due to persistant troughing and onshore flow over the western US.

I can even reference the day I was talking about in August of 2016:

It was Friday August 26th, 2016. Ontario had a high of 84 and a low of 61 that day; Riverside had a high of 85 and a low of 63; and San Bernardino had a high of 86 and a low of 52. All observations taken from airport stations, you can look them up.

And that day had marine layer and fog in the morning all the way out to Banning, which gave way to clear skies by about noon
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Nope. 20C ain't no summer temps for anyone.

West Hollywood, Pasadena, Eagle Rock, Thousand Oaks and Westlake Village had snow few days ago...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather...ggedon-n974306

And yes, of course deciduous trees lose their leaves ... have you ever been there? Have you seen winter pics of LA? This is all inside LA, the place you claim to be summer year round... that's plain bs, and SF has a long, cool winter.







I can see clearly fall and winter colors there. And it's LA.

Sure, most trees in LA or Malaga are evergreen species, as most of their flowers, and lots of their greeny areas are made of palm trees which are, of course, green year round. Winter rain and summer irrigation makes their grass green as well. But deciduous species lose their leaves, like it or not.

Both places registered temps under 0C during winter months. That's winter. Both experienced snowfall inside their downtown areas. That's winter. Ok, in both places the last downtown snow event happened about 70 years ago... but it happened. So that's winter.

Mediterranean climates are not tropical, lol.
20C is our average high in June, so it is summer temps. No I have never been to LA, I have never been outside Europe. I thought that deciduous trees in warm climates stayed green all year? SF does not have winters, it is sunny and mild in ''winter'' and sunny and hot in summer.
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