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View Poll Results: Which city is more oceanic, Sydney or Paris?
Sydney 5 35.71%
Paris 7 50.00%
Both, in their own ways 2 14.29%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-20-2024, 02:57 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Okay, these "which is more..." threads are becoming a trend. So I'll do my own...

Whilst Sydney's climate is firmly humid subtropical, it is still very maritime moderated as it's right besides the ocean and its winds generally come from the sea. On the other hand, Paris is much more inland with a higher temperature range in the year, but yet it's deemed an oceanic climate by Koppen. Both Paris and especially Sydney can get extreme heatwaves. Paris gets some snow, whilst Sydney doesn't. Sydney can get heavy rain events and flooding, Paris rarely so I believe. So which is more oceanic?

Paris: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris#Climate
Sydney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Climate
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Old 04-20-2024, 03:48 AM
 
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No its not mate ... as you firmly know... not even the AU BoM uses the subtropical 'descriptor' for Sydney
Its called 'warm temperate oceanic ' in AU vernacular....
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Old 04-20-2024, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Paris has an Oceanic Climate because it has mild summers and mild winters

Sydney has a subtropical climate, albeit moderated, because it has hot summers and mild winters
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Old 04-20-2024, 02:59 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Sydney - While Paris has the Oceanic descriptor in it's official classification title, Sydney is the climate most shaped by maritime influence.

Oceanic should be viewed as a primary influence, before a classification title.
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Old 04-20-2024, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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Both, in their own ways. As a technically oceanic climate, Paris is, of course while Sydney is not. But if we talk about oceanic in a broader sense, namely wich of these two is more moderate overall, then the answer Sydney with a yearly temperature gradient of 10.1C versus the 15.5C of Paris.
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Old 04-20-2024, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Sydney - While Paris has the Oceanic descriptor in it's official classification title, Sydney is the climate most shaped by maritime influence.

Oceanic should be viewed as a primary influence, before a classification title.
Tuvalu.
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Old 04-20-2024, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Paris, ÃŽle-de-France, France
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Sydney, if you’re talking about the continentality(annual range).
Paris, if you’re talking about the climate classification around the world.
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Old Yesterday, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Augusta, Ga
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Isn't Paris like a quintessential example of a western European oceanic climate?
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Old Today, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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No its not mate ... as you firmly know... not even the AU BoM uses the subtropical 'descriptor' for Sydney
Its called 'warm temperate oceanic ' in AU vernacular....
We had this talk before and I think enough is enough (with respect mate). Nobody cares about the AUS BOM's description for Sydney (nobody outside of Australia, really). Also, no one's talking about Sydney's climate in the Aussie context. We're beating a dead horse as I've done this with you many times now. I actually expected this answer from you as soon as your name showed. Lol.

Look, whether we like it or not, Sydney is humid subtropical according to Koppen. Maybe in an Aussie forum I'd abide by "warm temperate". But now, here, I'm using the Koppen scheme as a basis because this is a world forum. After all, the 'lingua franca' of climates is Koppen's system (and I have my disagreements with the system as well. mind you).

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You remind me of my buddy in San Jose who always corrects me when I say I'm a "liberal", where he goes "liberal in Australia means conservative cos your right wing government party are called 'the liberals". He goes on factory reset and I always have to tell him that I use "liberal" in the global context, not that I am supporting the Aussie Liberals.


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Sydney - While Paris has the Oceanic descriptor in it's official classification title, Sydney is the climate most shaped by maritime influence.

Oceanic should be viewed as a primary influence, before a classification title.
Agreed.
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Old Today, 06:59 AM
 
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Paris is a stereotypical standard oceanic climate whilst Sydney represents a hybrid between oceanic and subtropical. I also do think it's weird how Australians think Sydney is just pure oceanic with no subtropical classification whatsoever, despite most of the country living in the southern half of it. On the other hand, I can realize that Sydney definitely does have the genes of such a climate, given for its milder summers.
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