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View Poll Results: Do you consider Victoria, BC to have a warm temperate climate?
Yes 2 8.70%
No 21 91.30%
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Old 10-07-2019, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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I was in Victoria in early September and while the thermometer showed 15-18 degrees, it felt very nice and pleasant, no jacket was needed in the bright sunshine.

oh sure, but my point is that this place is neither cold nor warm. It looks very similar to climates in NW France, except for the rainfall distribution. For sure their winters are milder than here, but their summers are relatively cool (but nothing strange for the latitude really).



The weather you describe is great, but this is what we're having right now, one month later.



Maybe "warm temperate" is a way to differentiate that kind of climate Vs. climates with similar summers but actual cold winters ? (like, say, Scandinavians or baltic climates for instance).
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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"Warm temperate"?? such term sounds illogical in my opinion. A similar term in my system is "Warm oceanic", whose main requirement is an annual mean between 15șC and 20șC, so Vancouver doesn't qualify as that at all.
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:45 AM
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Climate classifications have more to do with minimum temps in the winter than summer or average temps. That's why its on the warm temperate side, although just barely. And the Mediterranean aspect is simply the rainfall pattern.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I have to disagree with the popular opinion, unfortunately.

For me, warm temperate is anything warmer than hemiboreal but colder than subtropical, so yes. Places with either a Dfa or Cfb climate (or their dry winter/summer equivalents) generally support more plant species than Dfb but fewer than Cfa,although this does of course vary on a case-by-case basis. Thus, I would consider Victoria to be "mild warm temperate" as opposed to Chicago's "harsh warm temperate."
Warm temperate climates should grow more plants than mild/cool temperates climates -if there are exceptions, then it is incorrect to use vegetation when it suits your view, and ignore vegetation when it doesn't suit your view
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Maybe "warm temperate" is a way to differentiate that kind of climate Vs. climates with similar summers but actual cold winters ? (like, say, Scandinavians or baltic climates for instance).
Then you're really just saying that my climate and Stockholm's climates, are really just variants of each other - not seeing the logic here.
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Old 10-07-2019, 03:01 PM
 
Location: In transition
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If Victoria is not considered a warm temperate climate, would it be considered a cold temperate climate then?
Does it have a lot in common with climates like Oslo or Sapporo?
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Old 10-07-2019, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Then you're really just saying that my climate and Stockholm's climates, are really just variants of each other - not seeing the logic here.

Oh no I don't want to get into a debate with you about this


I don't even understand this whole "warm temperate" thing really, I just think this place is oceanic with a mediterranean influence, like most of this area. And as such, I don't see why it would be classified as warm something, except in regards to places which are continental but without the hot summers (hence my examples), so places with a lower annual average.


I mean, my place is a whole 3c warmer than Victoria on a yearly basis, so are we "Hot temperate" then ?
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:11 PM
 
Location: YVR - YYJ - YOW
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No.

Warmest and most pleasant climate in Canada. But not "Warm, temperate"... nowhere really qualifies for that in the country. I'd consider a climate like Porto, Portugal warm, temperate... winter average highs still need to reach the teens.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Oh no I don't want to get into a debate with you about this


I don't even understand this whole "warm temperate" thing really, I just think this place is oceanic with a mediterranean influence, like most of this area. And as such, I don't see why it would be classified as warm something, except in regards to places which are continental but without the hot summers (hence my examples), so places with a lower annual average.


I mean, my place is a whole 3c warmer than Victoria on a yearly basis, so are we "Hot temperate" then ?
Temperate climates are pretty much all climates except tropical and polar climates, so it shouldn't be hard to place all individual temperate locations into cold, cool/mild, or warm temperate categories.

Bologna would be cool/mild temperate, same as Victoria and my climate.
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Old 10-08-2019, 02:03 AM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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Temperate climates are pretty much all climates except tropical and polar climates, so it shouldn't be hard to place all individual temperate locations into cold, cool/mild, or warm temperate categories.

Bologna would be cool/mild temperate, same as Victoria and my climate.
I think that’s the problem with the temperate category, it sort of covers absolutely everything except the extremes (polar or tropical).

I like “oceanic with Mediterranean influences” to describe the PNW. It’s the most accurately descriptive imo.
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