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Old 10-26-2008, 06:22 AM
 
Location: So. Dak.
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We had a very late spring, but our autumn is very nice. We still have leaves on about 80% of our trees and some of them haven't even started turning color yet. Our flowers are still alive even though they're looking a bit worn out. The red bushes and orange bushes have started changing colors. Some are in beautiful color right now and some haven't changed at all yet. Green bushes are still nice and green.

It's just odd because the past two years we went on vacation in Oct. and when we returned around the 20th, there wasn't a leaf to be found.

AND birds~they're getting to be pretty scarce, but we do still have a few of them left here.

What's it like in your area?
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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The forest near my house has about 1/3rd leaf fall. Past peak is what I'd call the colours, though I don't kwow what the experts would say. Some of the oak trees are still green though.

Two weeks ago we had VIVID fall colours because we either had no frost, or just the lightest frost once and then it warmed up again. Back then we had trees with 1/2 colour change, and the ones that changed were a bright kaleidoscope of colour with pretty close to zero leaf fall. The weather was mostly late-summer-like.

We have been drier than normal (just under 1 inch until Oct 24th instead of our average 1 3/4") and sunnier than normal for October until yesterday. Another thing that helped was we had zero pronounced dry periods this summer so there was no leaf drop due to drought. For the past two weeks we've been pretty cold; frost 2/3'rds of all mornings and highs usually in the 50's F.

Jammie, has your area lost any leaves before fall due to dry conditions?
Do you normally lose some?
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:13 AM
 
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Believe it or not........there is some leaf coulour here in south FL. I see some mangrove trees turning red and yellow right now......and believe it or not, in January and February we have bare trees here.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Believe it or not........there is some leaf coulour here in south FL. I see some mangrove trees turning red and yellow right now......and believe it or not, in January and February we have bare trees here.
Is that because of drought, or because they too are sensitive to light changes?

I've seen bare bald or pond cypress trees in south Florida in January...
Only part of their leaves remaining and they're all brown.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:46 PM
 
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Is that because of drought, or because they too are sensitive to light changes?

I've seen bare bald or pond cypress trees in south Florida in January...
Only part of their leaves remaining and they're all brown.
It's a way to resist to drought.....since winter here is very, very dry usually. Light changes aren't extreme here....June 21 has 13 hours of daylight, Dec 21....11 hours.
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Old 10-26-2008, 02:26 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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Our trees still have their leaves in full green color. Most trees around here do not drop their leaves. The ones that do usually don't lose their leaves until January or February, and remain bare for about 2 to 3 weeks.

We get fall color around Christmas with some trees turning yellow, but the vast majority of trees stay green year round.
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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It's a way to resist to drought.....since winter here is very, very dry usually. Light changes aren't extreme here....June 21 has 13 hours of daylight, Dec 21....11 hours.
How can the trees sense this dry season so early?
Is it already getting dry there?
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:06 PM
 
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How can the trees sense this dry season so early?
Is it already getting dry there?
Humidity isn't as high as it was back in July.....and it is cooler at night now than it was in July/August. Yet again, it could also be the heat stressing out the trees.
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Light changes aren't extreme here....June 21 has 13 hours of daylight, Dec 21....11 hours.
Even though they aren't extreme changes, I'm sure some plants can still sense it.

Plants like Poinsetta, Christmas Cactus and Easter Cactus are all very frost sensitive, yet only flower after the days grow shorter. All the above plants would likely perish north of Orlando Florida or Coastal Southern California so they are from the tropics or (barely) sub-tropical areas.

*FYI, sunset is 2-2.5 hours earlier than I'm accustomed to and we haven't even changed from daylight savings time yet.
(I have no opinion on it either way, but sometimes I'm really confused that it's black out when it's only 7 pm)
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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We still have leaves on about 80% of our trees and some of them haven't even started turning color yet. Our flowers are still alive even though they're looking a bit worn out.

Yeah, that is strange. I would think that far north, most everything would be history by now. Has not not been that cold up there yet this season?

It varies from year to year. @ this time last year, most all of our trees were still green, but this year we have about 50% change and about 25% leaf drop, but the late changers are still all green.

I was at some relatives last weekend in northwestern South Carolina (about 5 miles east of the Georgia state line) and 95% of the trees there were still 100% green. Only the Sumac and early Maples were changing. There are alot of Live Oaks and pines down there though (Loblolly, Slash, etc). As a guide, here are some photos I took in the neighborhood a week ago today: This is in an area around 750 ft ASL.





But even in the highlands of upstate South Carolina, there was very little change...



But as we got into western North Carolina and extreme east Tennessee into the really higher elevations, some colors popping...

These are about 2500-4500 ft. elevation... (a week ago today)






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