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Old 01-08-2010, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Renmark and Mildura sound dreamy.

I'm surprised it's the only part of Victoria where palms have naturalised.
Pretty much anywhere in North America mild enough to not kill palms is warm enough for them to thrive during the growing season. (further evidence that Melbourne is a "British climate, Down Under"? )
Palms can grow anywhere in Vic, but usually they are planted.
Only in Mildura I've seen them scattered around in seemingly random locations, especially near water. Presumably the wind blows seeds off the original trees and they just start growing when it settles in a prticular location?

Victoria only has one native species growing in the forests near the eastern coastline of the state.


That being said, Renmark can get ridiculously cold at night, I remember Jan 2006, the temp there got to -6C, with another 5 nights in the -3 to -5 range! That month alone had 14 nights under 0C, and the average was 0.9C! This year, Mildura on the other hand rarely goes more than a couple of degrees below freezing, even though its only 90 minute drive away with essentially the same terrain and environment.

This year, they had 9 nights below 0C, with an extreme low of -4.3C , Whereas Mildura had 5 with an extreme low of -1.8C. Recording stations for both towns are at their airports which are around 10km from the town centre.

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Old 01-08-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Cool nights are the best, never having to use the A/C is ideal or as SAB would say cold subarctic temps, sounds perfect to me!
I don't "prefer" using A/C at night, but I don't want it particularly-cool inside my house either.

You remind me of my neighbour:

*Whenever it's warm enough at night that some fresh air would feel nice, we hear the loud,
constant hum of their air-conditioner partially drowning out the delightful sound of the forest's chorusing-crickets.

*Whenever we think it's too chilly to leave the windows open in the evening is the only time their A/C is not humming...
and then they might open their windows. Usually this is chilly enough the crickets don't feel like chirping much.
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I just went to a place where there is my ideal summer weather.

mild-warm mornings, not too hot, not too cold, just comfortable enough to enjoy the sunrise in shirt and shorts, hot afternoons, and warm evenings where one can partake outdoor activities without dying, unlike here in icy cold subarctic Melbourne.
This perfectly describes my ideal summer weather! Care to share the name of the place you visited?
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Palms can grow anywhere in Vic, but usually they are planted.
Only in Mildura I've seen them scattered around in seemingly random locations, especially near water. Presumably the wind blows seeds off the original trees and they just start growing when it settles in a prticular location?
Yeah, but the fact that they can only naturalize there is probably indicative of weather I find more favourable.

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Victoria only has one native species growing in the forests near the eastern coastline of the state.
Really? How does the climate differ from Melbourne in that part of VIC?

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That being said, Renmark can get ridiculously cold at night, I remember Jan 2006, the temp there got to -6C, with another 5 nights in the -3 to -5 range! That month alone had 14 nights under 0C, and the average was 0.9C! This year, Mildura on the other hand rarely goes more than a couple of degrees below freezing, even though its only 90 minute drive away with essentially the same terrain and environment.

This year, they had 9 nights below 0C, with an extreme low of -4.3C , Whereas Mildura had 5 with an extreme low of -1.8C. Recording stations for both towns are at their airports which are around 10km from the town centre.
While I wouldn't enjoy being outside for that, if I was staying at a hotel I could just stay asleep until it warmed...
assuming the cold summer lows are accompanied by a high diurnal temp difference.
Say it's forecast for 0 C in the morning and 30 C in the afternoon;
time your alarm clock to go off when expect it to pass 10 C or 15 C.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Yeah, but the fact that they can only naturalize there is probably indicative of weather I find more favourable.



Really? How does the climate differ from Melbourne in that part of VIC?
it's really quite similar actually, but overnight lows might be a degree or two lower, but winter days are actually slightly warmer. That area recieves more rainfall and tends to be slightly more humid, so that might be the kicker.


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While I wouldn't enjoy being outside for that, if I was staying at a hotel I could just stay asleep until it warmed...
assuming the cold summer lows are accompanied by a high diurnal temp difference.
cold summer lows? I was talking about winter.

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Say it's forecast for 0 C in the morning and 30 C in the afternoon;
time your alarm clock to go off when expect it to pass 10 C or 15 C.
don't think I've ever seen an 0C night followed by a 30C afternoon anywhere in Oz...

Currently 44C in Mildura - hottest in the entire country!
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Far SW Denver/SE Lakewood
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Warm enough to wear t-shirt and shorts. I do not want to feel like I am sitting in an oven. Getting sweaty while I sit around is too hot!
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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cold summer lows? I was talking about winter.

don't think I've ever seen an 0C night followed by a 30C afternoon anywhere in Oz...

Currently 44C in Mildura - hottest in the entire country!
Didn't you say Renmark hit -6 C in Jan 2006?

That's good to hear!
I think in an Atlas I read that 0C (32 F) night and 38 C (100 F) day is possible in Death Valley, California.
I'd assumed it was almost that harsh somewhere like the Nullabor.

Mmmm... toasty.
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Didn't you say Renmark hit -6 C in Jan 2006?
ah crap , I was meant to say June It is certainly not possible for it to get that cold in January!!!!

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That's good to hear!
I think in an Atlas I read that 0C (32 F) night and 38 C (100 F) day is possible in Death Valley, California.
I'd assumed it was almost that harsh somewhere like the Nullabor.

Mmmm... toasty.
that would be quite interesting!

The highest temp range I'm aware of in Aus occured at Eyre on the coast of the Nullabour a couple of years ago... the low was 7C and the high 44C.
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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Didn't you say Renmark hit -6 C in Jan 2006?

That's good to hear!
I think in an Atlas I read that 0C (32 F) night and 38 C (100 F) day is possible in Death Valley, California.
I'd assumed it was almost that harsh somewhere like the Nullabor.

Mmmm... toasty.
I think that is a mistake from SAB, January 2006 should be July 2006.
Nowhere gets these kind of temperatures in January, anywhere in Oz,
even Canberra which frequently gets as low as -6 in winter.
As you know, January here is equivalent to your July and vice versa.
High diurnal ranges are most likely seen in late autumn or spring, nothing this marked in summer even on the Nullabor.
See also the thread on Extreme Low Humidities.
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