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Old 03-24-2010, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Yuck
I know, but I was only describing my physical limitations.
You learn a lot about how much cold you can actually handle living through a Canadian winter...
and probably how much warmth you can too,
wearing all your winter clothing in a 22 C heated indoor mall, when you don't feel like carrying it.

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I did say I *couldn't* handle that.
Okay, my mistake.
But for indoor temps I wouldn't be able to handle what most Aussies apparently can.
Anything under 17 C/63 F feels ridiculous to me indoors. (without dressing as if you're outdoors )

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In general residents here might hope for temps of 25-35C, but the *weatherfans* here cry and sook like a 5 year old girl who just lost her puppy whenever it goes above 20-25C. And they go and claim ridiculous things like we have a "5 month" summer. What a pile of toss, obviously they havent experienced climates where its actaully warm to hot *consistently* in summer. Damo can beleive what ever crap he wants, but personally, to me, 9C at night and 20C during the day is not summer. Anyone who believes so obviously spent their previous life on Pluto.

Is October blessed with summer weather here? NO. Is April...NO. Hell sometimes even December and February is cold and wintry, with 2008 being a classic example, and in the case of February, 2002 was a "pearler"
I would be amused by them, instead of angered.
They would not be able handle being in Canadian shopping mall in wintertime wearing long sleeves.
(it's NEVER cooler than 21 C in a shopping mall, yet most Canadians in sweaters/jumpers don't mind )

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Old 03-24-2010, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Sorry if the facts of Melbourne's crap climate are so hard to take. Infact, I think 13 thunderdays is an overestimation if anything, and we certainly dont get 90 days over 30C like places like Norfolk, Virginia and all that. We are super lucky to get 30 days over 30C in this subarctic maritime climate. Damo, you are a tool, you seem to think we live in equatorial Africa like all the other mongs on the aus forums, because cleary. 20C is extremely hot and devastating and insuffareble as many a retard on the aus nazi forums believes, and to defend yourself you insult someone who dares tell the truth. Bite me mate.



Wow, that is amazing. So 20C is warm enough to be considered summer. Good lord, even the folks in Oslo would be laughing. 5 months of summer, holy crap what a laugh, then I guess Perf has 10-11 months of summer, Sydney has 10-11 months of summer, Adelaide has 9 months of summer.....these cities actually do get 5 months of summer....we don't bud, we are much colder than all of these bloody locations due to our subarctic latitude which promotes regular cold fronts year round.

We have 4-6 weeks of "summer" at most, and that is not consequtive weeks as we always get extended periods of cold 20-23C weather which can last up to 2 weeks, even in January Not to mention we are one of the least stormiest places on Earth, but we get 180 days of gloomy slate-grey stratocrapulus fun sexy times, which you no doubt enjoy to the max.

If ya want summer and storms mate, go to NSW or better yet Perfffffffff or any remaining 98% of the country
FACTS

1 November 2009 Av Max 27.1C with 8.6 hours of sun per day
2 December 2009 Av Max 25.9C with 9.2 hours of sun per day
3 January 2010 Av Max 27.5C with 9.2 hours of sun per day
4 Febuary 2010 Av Max 28.2C with 8.5 hours of sun per day
5 March 2010 Av Max 26.3C with 7.9 hours of sun per day

That is 5 months of summer IMO.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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FACTS

1 November 2009 Av Max 27.1C with 8.6 hours of sun per day
2 December 2009 Av Max 25.9C with 9.2 hours of sun per day
3 January 2010 Av Max 27.5C with 9.2 hours of sun per day
4 Febuary 2010 Av Max 28.2C with 8.5 hours of sun per day
5 March 2010 Av Max 26.3C with 7.9 hours of sun per day

That is 5 months of summer IMO.
Just so. But you're arguing against a mindset I'm afraid.
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Old 03-25-2010, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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FACTS

1 November 2009 Av Max 27.1C with 8.6 hours of sun per day
2 December 2009 Av Max 25.9C with 9.2 hours of sun per day
3 January 2010 Av Max 27.5C with 9.2 hours of sun per day
4 Febuary 2010 Av Max 28.2C with 8.5 hours of sun per day
5 March 2010 Av Max 26.3C with 7.9 hours of sun per day

That is 5 months of summer IMO.
FACTS

1. November was the warmest on record, some 5C above average
2. January had 16 days BELOW 25C
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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1. November was the warmest on record, some 5C above average
2. January had 16 days BELOW 25C
1. Still doesn't change the fact that I put it down as 1 of our 5 summer months.
2. 12 out of those 16 days had 7 hours or more of sunshine and all were between 20C-25C. Not as bad as you make them out to be.
So if those days were so bad how good must the other 15 days have been to prop the average temp up to 27.5C?
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Old 03-25-2010, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Subarctic Mountain Climate in England
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I checked on your claims about Buxton. Even in the dreary times of 1931-1960 with a probably poorly-exposed site, the average was 1133. However, in the last decade things have been different:

1283h in 2002 with E&W 97% of normal, 1621h in 2003 with E&W 118%, 1302h in 2004 with E&W figure was 102%. These figures suggest a more recent annual average sunshine should be of the order 1300-1350h. This data has been obtained from a person who has a very extensive collection of climatological data. This recent suggested average is not very much different from lowland areas west of the Pennines.
But none of this is from a weather station measuring sunshine actually at the location. The averages I am using are also based on this website which uses a properly set up sunshine recorder and is located on a high spot just to the south of Buxton.

Buxton Weather – Live Weather in Buxton Derbyshire, UK.

Averages are in a link to the left (only since 2003 on this site). I have been here all this time and even I noticed the difference when I moved to Lincoln for three years where with 1,450-1500 hrs sunshine it was noticably sunnier than Buxton.

Only 2006 managed to exceed 1,200 hrs, because of the particularly warm and sunny July. Having lived here a lot, I can certainly tell the difference between the 1,000-1,200 hours here and official 1,400hrs at RAF Waddington outside Lincoln in 2007, 2008.

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Old 03-25-2010, 07:21 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Back to sunshine, ()

I think I found the sunniest climate in Canada, Medicine Hat: (53.9% chance of sun, annually)
Canadian Climate Normals 1971-2000 | Canada's National Climate Archive

And the sunniest month anywhere in Canada, Weyburn: (71.9% in July, vs. Medicine Hat's 71.3% in July)
Canadian Climate Normals 1971-2000 | Canada's National Climate Archive

Winter is still "dismal" in both locations, but the other 8-9 months of the year don't look bad, imho.
I think Medicine Hat barely beats Blenheim, NZ. You can take some consolation in that.

Still not as good as NYC tho (one would think NYC is in the middle of a desert somewhere, not on a coast of an ocean).
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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I think Medicine Hat barely beats Blenheim, NZ. You can take some consolation in that.

Still not as good as NYC tho (one would think NYC is in the middle of a desert somewhere, not on a coast of an ocean).
I was hoping to show how "good" Canada can be.
It generally is disapppointing for those who like heat and sun,
but I thought some people might like to know where our best places are.
Osoyoos BC is one of our warmest and driest towns, but it's not as sunny are the Canadian Prairies.

Yes, but NYC has several things in its favour;
-further south than southernmost Canada
-mountains to the west, perhaps creating some "compressional heating/drying"
-for some odd reason, the Atlantic coast south of Maine is surprisingly sunny (^^ because of the last point? )

In summary,
Canadians (and a lot other people world-wide ) expect "crap weather" in Canada,
so I was trying to help showing some of our "better" climates.
A lot of people like NYC weather, so most people don't need any convincing.
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Heh, I plugged NYC in there but that wasn't the main point of my post. Didn't mean to gloat.

Canada seems to be at least equal to NZ in sunniness, it seems (Blenheim is its sunniest city). Anyway, would you consider moving to Medicine Hat? Wikipedia says it is popular with retirees. Canada's Florida (couldn't help it)
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Heh, I plugged NYC in there but that wasn't the main point of my post. Didn't mean to gloat.

Canada seems to be at least equal to NZ in sunniness, it seems (Blenheim is its sunniest city). Anyway, would you consider moving to Medicine Hat? Wikipedia says it is popular with retirees. Canada's Florida (couldn't help it)
No worries.
But you do understand that Canada has nothing to compare with NYC,
unless we get a freaky warm spring, summer and fall season in Toronto or Montreal. (happens once in 10 years)
NYC is like Vancouver's winter mildness and long growing seasons,
Medicine Hat's sun, Windsor's rain & humidity, Lytton's summer temps all rolled into one climate.
(the best of all Canadian climates combined would get close to NYC's )

Slightly-less "bad" temperature stats don't thrill me.
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