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Old 07-17-2009, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Sound Beach
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NCDC: Climate of 2009 - June Global Analysis

Personally...I am watching my tomato plants do nothing and the mushrooms grow out of the sand on Long Island. We are on track for the coolest July on record after the 2nd coolest June.

Farmers on eastern Long Island (which by the way boasts more farm sales than anywhere in New York State) are being hit with 50-70% crop losses die to rain and cool temps.

What gives? Is this summer an anomaly? Is the climate number a bunch of garbage?

However...here comes El Nino!!

Talk amongst yourselves :-)

 
Old 07-17-2009, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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We have a "Northeastern U.S.-like" climate in Toronto.

Those kinds of crop losses are "normal" here when we get higher than normal rain,
especially when the rain causes cooler than normal temps.

1-in-5 summers are like that here?
 
Old 07-17-2009, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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This is what is called "global warming". Nice to see it in action
 
Old 07-17-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: New York City
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This is what is called "global warming". Nice to see it in action
Were you also rolling your eyes when you had record heat last summer in Melbourne?

Anyway, expecting temps during a couple of months in one part of the country to be necessarily consistent with global warming is stupid. Global warming does not mean all places in the world will be warming in an even, linear trend.
 
Old 07-17-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Were you also rolling your eyes when you had record heat last summer in Melbourne?
Yeah, because technically it's possible given the exact right set-up, without Al Gore's "global warming" fantasy. "Global warming" is not a prerequisite for such heat, as seen in January 1939
 
Old 07-17-2009, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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We are going through a warming period, but it is because of the sun. So are all of the other planets in the solar system. Not because of what Al Gore says.
 
Old 07-17-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Sound Beach
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We are going through a warming period, but it is because of the sun. So are all of the other planets in the solar system. Not because of what Al Gore says.
I like that reasoning!
 
Old 07-17-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Mid Missouri
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The closest summer I have seen to this one in 52 years, was 1986. Here on Cape Cod, it rained 13 out of 15 summer weekends. The sun would be out most of the week with cooler than normal temps... low humidity.. and then on the weekend, we'd have one of these big rain storms blow in.

I was wearing turtlenecks at night that summer!!!!!

Al Gore is an idiot.
 
Old 07-17-2009, 10:13 PM
 
Location: New York
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I wish this region was one of the above average areas, but its less than 1/4th of the way through summer so that can change and I hope it does, the past two days were actually above average in NYC so I hope its a sign of things to come.
 
Old 07-18-2009, 12:04 AM
 
Location: New York City
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We are going through a warming period, but it is because of the sun. So are all of the other planets in the solar system. Not because of what Al Gore says.
Anything to back that up? Solar radiation is a very easy thing to measure, especially with satellites which are uneffected by weather on Earth's surface. And, if anything, solar radiation has been below average in the past decade, due to relatively few sunspots.

Also, I'm not sure why you are bringing up Al Gore. All he is doing is trying to bring awareness to global warming. He is not SAYING anything (originally anyway). He is not a scientist. If you want to argue against anybody, argue against the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, for instance.
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