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Certainly not Lima - months of the garua would drive me crazy. One has to go inland and upland to escape it (into bright winter sunshine!)
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02-06-2010, 04:00 AM
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Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Yeah Lima's climate is crap for its latitude...I'd feel cheated. It's at a similar latitude as Darwin (13ºS), yet their year round high temps are virtually identical to Newcastle, NSW for example, which is at 32 deg latitude! And look at their record high...only 34C  Let's not forget the lows, not even 20C in mid summer....That is shocking for an equatorial climate.
BBC - Weather Centre - World Weather - Average Conditions - Lima
And does it really get 1 hour of sun per day for 4 months in a row? 
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02-06-2010, 04:02 AM
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San Diego.
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02-06-2010, 07:21 AM
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Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Originally Posted by §AB
Yeah Lima's climate is crap for its latitude...I'd feel cheated. It's at a similar latitude as Darwin (13ºS), yet their year round high temps are virtually identical to Newcastle, NSW for example, which is at 32 deg latitude! And look at their record high...only 34C  Let's not forget the lows, not even 20C in mid summer....That is shocking for an equatorial climate.
BBC - Weather Centre - World Weather - Average Conditions - Lima
And does it really get 1 hour of sun per day for 4 months in a row? 
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Their lows look nice though, especially record lows. 
It'd be real easy in that climate to design dwellings for comfy indoor temps.
Given its position near the equator,
that would mean daylength of 11+ hours making your chance of sun under 10%.
That makes Toronto's 26% in December look good.
I wonder if the UK even have a comparably-miserable monthly average chance of sun? 
My guess is even Scotland isn't THAT bad. 
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02-06-2010, 08:18 AM
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Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Originally Posted by ColdCanadian
Their lows look nice though, especially record lows. 
It'd be real easy in that climate to design dwellings for comfy indoor temps.
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Screw that. If you lived at 13 degrees south, would you want to live in that disgusting climate, where most temperate locations kick its ass, or in terms of Sunshine even London belts it, or would you go for Darwin, a truly tropical climate with average lows and highs in summer of 26/33C and winter 20/31C and with a crapload more sunshine?
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Given its position near the equator,
that would mean daylength of 11+ hours making your chance of sun under 10%.
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Yes, I can't believe it. Does it REALLY average 1 hour daily sunshine per month in winter, as the stats show? That is impossible to comprehend for an equatorial desert location.
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That makes Toronto's 26% in December look good.
I wonder if the UK even have a comparably-miserable monthly average chance of sun? 
My guess is even Scotland isn't THAT bad.
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The UK is actually sunnier. Everywhere in the UK gets more than 1 hour of sun even in July, let alone for 4 straight months.
I'd actually prefer Melbourne's climate to this Antarctica on the Equator. There are lots of crappy climates in this area of South America. Have you seen Bogota, Columbia's average temps? God save us! Even Ica, Peru, with it's sand dunes, no rainfall, and vast palm tree laden oasis' is colder than Melbourne!
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02-06-2010, 10:33 AM
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Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Originally Posted by §AB
Screw that. If you lived at 13 degrees south,
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^^ 
If I could live at 13 degrees S, at an alitude low enough temperatures were rarely lower than 13 C,
I would develop an ear-to-ear permasmile on a dark, olive-brown face.
(even with Lima's overcast, you could probably get a fair amount of UV through the clouds.  )
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or would you go for Darwin, a truly tropical climate with average lows and highs in summer of 26/33C and winter 20/31C and with a crapload more sunshine?
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Of course I would enjoy Darwin's climate more. 
I might even pick Madras India's climate with May's average of 38 C with 67% humidity and 9 hours of daily-sunshine, (heat index of 54 C/130 F?) over Lima's lukewarm-dullness. 
But... I am only a Canadian citizen, which means I'm only guaranteed the right to live in cold climates.
(I would feel honoured to be allowed to live in a climate that I don't consider "cold"  )
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Yes, I can't believe it. Does it REALLY average 1 hour daily sunshine per month in winter, as the stats show? That is impossible to comprehend for an equatorial desert location.
The UK is actually sunnier. Everywhere in the UK gets more than 1 hour of sun even in July, let alone for 4 straight months.
I'd actually prefer Melbourne's climate to this Antarctica on the Equator. There are lots of crappy climates in this area of South America. Have you seen Bogota, Columbia's average temps? God save us! Even Ica, Peru, with it's sand dunes, no rainfall, and vast palm tree laden oasis' is colder than Melbourne!
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Do these stats make you feel a little better about your Antarctic-outpost home? 
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02-06-2010, 12:20 PM
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Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by §AB
Yes, I can't believe it. Does it REALLY average 1 hour daily sunshine per month in winter, as the stats show? That is impossible to comprehend for an equatorial desert location.
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Yes, as RWood mentioned previously, Lima gets a kind of marine stratus fog known locally as the Garua which can last for months. This is the reason why the sunshine hours are so low for such a low latitude.
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02-06-2010, 01:30 PM
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Location: Wellington and North of South
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Originally Posted by §AB
Yeah Lima's climate is crap for its latitude...I'd feel cheated. It's at a similar latitude as Darwin (13ºS), yet their year round high temps are virtually identical to Newcastle, NSW for example, which is at 32 deg latitude! And look at their record high...only 34C  Let's not forget the lows, not even 20C in mid summer....That is shocking for an equatorial climate.
BBC - Weather Centre - World Weather - Average Conditions - Lima
And does it really get 1 hour of sun per day for 4 months in a row? 
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Temps. wouldn't bother me but if the sun values are anywhere near correct - and probably are - they are dismal. There is a vast area of ocean and the adjoining coast under a winter inversion.
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02-06-2010, 01:37 PM
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Location: Wellington and North of South
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Bogota is at quite a high altitude, so its temperatures are not that surprising. Sunshine on the coast south of Lima improves quickly with allegedly about 2400 hrs at Arica, 2800 at Iquique and 3200 at Antofagasta. But the inland desert is much sunnier - Calama's welcome sign declares it be the "city of sunshine and copper" {original Spanish "Ciudad de la sol y (del) cobre"}. Solar radiation levels in the inland desert are among the world's highest.
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02-06-2010, 02:06 PM
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Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Originally Posted by RWood
Bogota is at quite a high altitude, so its temperatures are not that surprising.
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Too high!
Their record high is 24 C, every month has a record low between 7-2 C and their warmest average monthly low is 11 C, which to me means virtually every morning is cold.
Their temps are so chilly, I might even like living in Toronto better. 
Last edited by ColdCanadian; 02-06-2010 at 02:46 PM..
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