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Old 11-11-2012, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Well I guess that's your problem then.
It's not a problem. It's just the wonderful world of climate/weather - there is always so much more to learn.

Now you know what a sea breeze is - be happy (even if this is the unhappy thread).

 
Old 11-11-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Actually no I don't your just confusing me.
 
Old 11-11-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Actually no I don't your just confusing me.
Read the links. Your confusion will be undone.
 
Old 11-11-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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I'm still confused. I don't get your point.
 
Old 11-11-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I disagree the sea breeze can drop the tempetaure here from 24c to 14c in as little as 30 minutes.
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I'm still confused. I don't get your point.
My point is, that your first quote doesn't sound like a sea breeze alone. With 13C sea temps, it doesn't make sense that the temperature could rise to 24C, then the sea breeze just suddenly start and drop the temp 10C in 30 minutes, unless there was another weather factor at play- eg a strong enough off shore wind that prevents the sea breeze from starting.

Here the sea breeze starts when there is only a 2-3 C differential. I don't know why it would be different where you live.

I have actually seen temp drops similar to what you describe, and they did come from the direction of the sea, but they weren't sea breezes.

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Old 11-11-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Well, could you please explain to me what they are then? Because I am confused, at the time of the hot temperatures there was high pressure and sunshine so no reason to have a cold front.
 
Old 11-11-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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On the English East Coast temperatures are regularly kept down to 19-20°C on a warm summers day while inland it is reaching 28-30°C as in July 2006. This is with winds from the east and no fronts in sight, just high pressure. Yes the difference is that big.

On some days the difference in max temperature between Boulmer and Newcastle (both in NE England) was as much as 8°C based on nuances in wind direction from the north sea, in high pressure warm set up situations. I've found data showing high of 15°C in Boulmer while even Newcastle was getting 24°C. All due to seabreezes. No fronts...
 
Old 11-11-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Well, could you please explain to me what they are then? Because I am confused, at the time of the hot temperatures there was high pressure and sunshine so no reason to have a cold front.
It might be easier if you explained how the temperature got up to 24C before the sea breeze got started. Here it will start as soon as the land temps are 2-3 C higher than the sea temp, unless there is an off shore breeze to off set it.
 
Old 11-11-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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On the English East Coast temperatures are regularly kept down to 19-20°C on a warm summers day while inland it is reaching 28-30°C as in July 2006. This is with winds from the east and no fronts in sight, just high pressure. Yes the difference is that big.

On some days the difference in max temperature between Boulmer and Newcastle (both in NE England) was as much as 8°C based on nuances in wind direction from the north sea, in high pressure warm set up situations. I've found data showing high of 15°C in Boulmer while even Newcastle was getting 24°C. All due to seabreezes. No fronts...
Similar to here, where there can be big differences between the coast and inland.

That still doesn't explain how a 10C drop in 30 minutes comes about though. I would guess that there is opposing airflow preventing the sea breeze from getting started.

A different airflow/mass combined with a delayed sea breeze - which was my original point.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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