Northern Hemisphere vs. Southern Hemisphere climates (snowy, Chicago, night, storms)
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FYI I never denied it ever gets to 32C in some parts of the Gulf or the Caribbean. All I'm doing is holding wavehunter accountable for his comments (now and in other threads) when he makes statements without any inifo to back them up.
Your own words!
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Originally Posted by Trimac20
I'm not aware of consistent SSTs of 32C and above anywhere outside the Persian Gulf, Red Sea or the Gulf of California. Isolated spots in the Timor Sea, Gulf of Thailand and South China Sea might occasionally average that in the warmest months.
So you are obviously no “expert” either. You seem to jump down his/her throat no matter what perspective. I have read several of your posts…you seem to try to force the concept that subtropical/tropical Australia is warm and the subtropical/tropical regions of the USA are no comparison. So obviously you are totally ignorant of the climate zones of the USA. I am holding you accountable for your comments…which are obviously ignorant of the SST of the Caribbean/Gulf of Mexico based on your comment above.
I have been in tropical oceans all over the world…and know for a FACT that spots in the Caribbean/western Bahamas/ and shallow Gulf Coast (near the loop current) can on occasion have the warmest ocean waters in the world. I have seen 35 C (94 F) on my depth meter in cays in the southwestern Bahamas in mid August. Why do you think tropical cyclones explode when they get into the NW Caribbean/Gulf/or southern Bahamas…cold water?
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Originally Posted by Trimac20
You might be his buddy, but he comes in thinking he's such an expert and that he can get away with anything. Wavehunter said something that was wrong and I proved he was wrong. Whether he admits it or not is up to him. Case closed.
Yea, the way you are ColdCandian buddy right Wavehunter posts interesting climate facts/maps and contributes far more to this site than a person with a hang up about the climates of the USA.
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Originally Posted by Trade Wind
Your own words!
So you are obviously no “expert” either. You seem to jump down his/her throat no matter what perspective. I have read several of your posts…you seem to try to force the concept that subtropical/tropical Australia is warm and the subtropical/tropical regions of the USA are no comparison. So obviously you are totally ignorant of the climate zones of the USA. I am holding you accountable for your comments…which are obviously ignorant of the SST of the Caribbean/Gulf of Mexico based on your comment above.
I have been in tropical oceans all over the world…and know for a FACT that spots in the Caribbean/western Bahamas/ and shallow Gulf Coast (near the loop current) can on occasion have the warmest ocean waters in the world. I have seen 35 C (94 F) on my depth meter in cays in the southwestern Bahamas in mid August. Why do you think tropical cyclones explode when they get into the NW Caribbean/Gulf/or southern Bahamas…cold water?
Yea, the way you are ColdCandian buddy right Wavehunter posts interesting climate facts/maps and contributes far more to this site than a person with a hang up about the climates of the USA.
Whatever. You guys take it all so seriously, this has nothing to do with 'putting down' anything or anyone. Again, no proof, you sound so defensive about your precious USA yet you say I'm the one attacking you?
Do you know what 'consistent' means? I was talking about averages.
Besides the point. Do you not agree wavehunter was wrong when he said nowhere in the SH gets as warm as the Caribbean?
I don't know what a depth metre is but I do know that it's not a scientifically accepted measurement so it counts for **** and it is just hearsay. I just showed you a 34.5C (and no doubt it's got hotter) off the coast of Australia yet neither you or wavehunter has shown proof of anything above 33C in the Gulf or the Caribbean. Anyone can claim 60C temps in the desert but they're not accepted figures.
Huh? What did I say about cold water?
Again, what does arguing about climates have to do with putting countries down? What's with wavehunter being so obsessed about proving how subtropical the US is? He's made like 12 threads, I haven't made any threads on the topic. Talk about the plank in your own eye. I think you both need to get a life and stop obsessing over weather so much and what people think about it.
Does anyone else get the impression that Trade Wind is a smurf account for Wavehunter007? The style of writing is the same (liberal use of boldface / italics, the only thing missing is a NOAA chart in every other post), they live in the same place(s), they have the same abrasive, arrogant attitude, the same erroneous belief that nowhere on earth is as warm as the south-east US, the same propensity to ignore all evidence that contradicts that belief, etc.
"...the Gulf of Mexico has the hottest SST's on average, end of..."
that would be silly as parts of coastal northern Australia have average monthly highs of 36-38 C/96-99 F.
I suspect both the Gulf of California and Red Sea can beat the Gulf of Mexico for the same reason.
For what it's worth,
I would say the Gulf/Caribbean are more likely to have the hottest swimmable SST's compared only to the southern hemisphere.
*Red algae blooms happen frequently in the Gulf of Mexico over large areas in summer, also nullifying "swimmability" *
Seems like once the SST's top 27 C/80 F in Australia you have deadly-box jellyfish.
Australian beaches with summer SST's in the 75-79 F / 24-26 C would be ideallic imho; compromise between warmth and safety.
In the northern hemisphere I have a strong preference for 82+ F/28+ C SST's as most areas generally aren't unsafe in the water.
My most favourite SST's for swimming are 29-31 C/85-88 F,
those are some of my most favourite days in Myrtle Beach; spend all day in it and still feel no chill
but that would be useless in Australia, unless it was in an isolated freshwater lake.
Does anyone know if the warmest seas in South America or Africa in the SH are safe to swim?
Last edited by ColdCanadian; 01-06-2011 at 08:19 PM..
Whatever. You guys take it all so seriously, this has nothing to do with 'putting down' anything or anyone. Again, no proof, you sound so defensive about your precious USA yet you say I'm the one attacking you?
This seems to have turned into a Australia/NZ vs USA thread with you and Chestz. You seem to have some issue with the USA, esp the eastern USA. Lets just agree to disagree.
Does anyone else get the impression that Trade Wind is a smurf account for Wavehunter007? The style of writing is the same (liberal use of boldface / italics, the only thing missing is a NOAA chart in every other post), they live in the same place(s), they have the same abrasive, arrogant attitude, the same erroneous belief that nowhere on earth is as warm as the south-east US, the same propensity to ignore all evidence that contradicts that belief, etc.
that would be silly as parts of coastal northern Australia have average monthly highs of 36-38 C/96-99 F.
I suspect both the Gulf of California and Red Sea can beat the Gulf of Mexico for the same reason.
For what it's worth,
I would say the Gulf/Caribbean are more likely to have the hottest swimmable SST's compared only to the southern hemisphere.
*Red algae blooms happen frequently in the Gulf of Mexico over large areas in summer, also nullifying "swimmability" *
Seems like once the SST's top 27 C/80 F in Australia you have deadly-box jellyfish.
Australian beaches with summer SST's in the 75-79 F / 24-26 C would be ideallic imho; compromise between warmth and safety.
In the northern hemisphere I have a strong preference for 82+ F/28+ C SST's as most areas generally aren't unsafe in the water.
My most favourite SST's for swimming are 29-31 C/85-88 F,
those are some of my most favourite days in Myrtle Beach; spend all day in it and still feel no chill
but that would be useless in Australia, unless it was in an isolated freshwater lake.
Does anyone know if the warmest seas in South America or Africa in the SH are safe to swim?
I've been to Fortaleza in NE Brazil, and the ocean water there was very warm.. almost like bathwater. Don't know the exact temps though.. probably around 30C if I had to guess and yes the waters there were very safe to swim in. I never had any problems there.
Does anyone else get the impression that Trade Wind is a smurf account for Wavehunter007? The style of writing is the same (liberal use of boldface / italics, the only thing missing is a NOAA chart in every other post), they live in the same place(s), they have the same abrasive, arrogant attitude, the same erroneous belief that nowhere on earth is as warm as the south-east US, the same propensity to ignore all evidence that contradicts that belief, etc.
A post like that just shows that you DO have a problem with the USA, esp the southern USA. Did someone from Miami or New Orleans beat you up when you were a kid or something (lol) ?
Geez lads...This debate should simply be renamed to "Northern Hemisphere Weather Buffs vs Southern Hemisphere Weather Buffs" .
Let's at least agree we all have one thing in common - a fondness (or obsession perhaps) of climatic matters.
My Statistics professor at uni once remarked about a conference once which was populated by Frequentist and Bayesian statisticians - both of which hold differing point of views. Apparently the angst was so bad they all sat in different parts of the auditorium...
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