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Mod cut: Orphaned. Men and women follow certain behavioral patterns that cannot be denied, and there are exceptions of course. So, when it comes to the ring, should women have input? Isn't it a gift? When there's a divorce women have agreed that no woman should return the ring, at least most, because it is A GIFT. If a woman want's to have input does that means that if her guy surprised her with a ring he thought was pretty and paid more attention to simply deciding to get married with her, would he get dumped?
I don't deny there may be women out there who might spend thousands of dollars on a man THAT IS NOT her husband or long time live-in boyfriend. There are as many men who happily take care of all house hold chores and not letting her wife participate.
When I get engaged, I want a ring. I'm not sure why but I just do...even if it's just a diamond band or something. It doesn't have to be huge. I've heard of women buying a nice watch as an engagement or wedding present for their guys. I think it's a great idea. I doubt most guys would want a ring.
Mod cut: Orphaned. MEN are honored to spend money on women when they are self-confident and understand the role of provider. While not all women deserve or are worthy, many are, and it is, has been, and will be, customary for men to take women out on dates.
Men who allow women to pay their way are not generally respected by women. We will do many things for men to show you guys we love and care for you. These things are not usually monetary, but every now and then can be. I will buy my guy dinner sometimes, but he makes 5 x what I do. It would be ludicrous for him to expect that on a regular basis.
Again, you are not of the generation that was taught these considerations, so we don't expect you to get it.
When I get engaged, I want a ring. I'm not sure why but I just do...even if it's just a diamond band or something. It doesn't have to be huge. I've heard of women buying a nice watch as an engagement or wedding present for their guys. I think it's a great idea. I doubt most guys would want a ring.
I remember reading an article somewhere about a woman who shared that she bought her man a fancy brand engagement watch that had "YES" engraved on the underside. When her man proposed and placed the ring, she gave him the watch with her answer right there .
When I get engaged, I want a ring. I'm not sure why but I just do...even if it's just a diamond band or something. It doesn't have to be huge. I've heard of women buying a nice watch as an engagement or wedding present for their guys. I think it's a great idea. I doubt most guys would want a ring.
I am so amazed at the whole "man-gagement" ring thing. Or "man-cessories."
C'mon guys...
Mod cut: Orphaned. Of course there are men who are honored to spend all kinds of money on a woman and women are honored to receive it. Nothing shocking about it. There are a few women out there who are honored to spend money on a man. So what? Like I said, each couple does as they like.
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While not all women deserve or are worthy, many are, and it is, has been, and will be, customary for men to take women out on dates
In the west yes. A man takes you out for dinner, wine, entertainment, etc. and you might thank him at the end of the date. Nothing new about this, I have dated American women as well and will continue to do so whenever I am in the USA. I have no problem about it as I have said many times. I have preferences though, just like you or anybody else.
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Men who allow women to pay their way are not generally respected by women
That’s right. I have said this all along. Women prefer men to take care of their expenses and other things. I agree with you all the way.
You said I think I know it all just because I said a comment about men, well, I applied it to you too. Men and women follow certain behavioral patterns that cannot be denied, and there are exceptions of course. So, when it comes to the ring, should women have input? Isn't it a gift? When there's a divorce women have agreed that no woman should return the ring, at least most, because it is A GIFT. If a woman want's to have input does that means that if her guy surprised her with a ring he thought was pretty and paid more attention to simply deciding to get married with her, would he get dumped?
No I said I dont know whats in others hearts and minds or how they behave. I assume the genders are not of one collective mind. You speak as if you know how all women feel and justify that with corroboration with one or two post while ignoring the many others. I believe the behaviors you harp on were created by society not genetics and as our society has changed those following gender based patterns is now the exception not the norm.
There is no defined answer as to if a woman should have an input into the selection of an engagement ring. As far as it being a gift, many gifts are actually picked out by the recipient.
Ive not heard of anyone getting dump because they didnt get to pick out an engagement ring.
When I get engaged, I want a ring. I'm not sure why but I just do...even if it's just a diamond band or something. It doesn't have to be huge. I've heard of women buying a nice watch as an engagement or wedding present for their guys. I think it's a great idea. I doubt most guys would want a ring.
There have been a couple of polls that popped up in the past about men and engagement rings. The majority voted "no" on that.
I have no desire to ever pick out an engagement ring. I don't really care if it has diamonds on it or not, either.
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