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Old 01-06-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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That is a MIGHTY big leap you've made there.

I personally consider the ring as part of the relationship. As a result of living 42 years, I've been blessed with being able to choose partners who respect that I feel that something is important. Surely, we don't agree on everything, but if I say "hon, this is really important to me", without a doubt, it will be respected.

Yes, having a ring is important to me. Frankly, it makes little to no difference to me if others feel differently.

I will say again that we are at the stage of life where we are literally speaking about disposable income. Whatever the budget would be, it's not as if we're taking it from things that would otherwise be a priority. He knows that this is important to me, there's no more pressing need for the money-- why wouldn't he do what I feel is important?

If he didn't? That would really make me reconsider what we have. We've had this discussion. He knows how I feel. So, if all other things stay the same (i.e. whatever would have been earmarked for a ring now needs to be used for more serious pressing matters), I'd feel that it was a slap in the face.





So, I should be getting him a gift as well? Is that the way it "should" work now?

I always found "keeping track" of monetary expenditures in this way to be awfully tiring.

But, I'll play along. What, praytell, should he be "getting"?
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why though? why is having a ring so important to you? i'm just curious.
With all due respect, this does seem extremely shallow. Is there more to why the value of the ring is so important to you? Does $10,000 USD convert to a certain amount of love currency (we can call them Hearts). How many Hearts does $10,000 equate to? $20,000? I'm curious as well.

Does the amount spent translate into how much he loves you? Or does the pride you get from showing your friends your expensive ring indirectly translate into how much he loves you?
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:09 PM
 
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Why does there have to be a "reason"? Seriously. It just is for me.
i guess there doesn't have to be. just trying to understand a different perspective.
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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It's funny, I can think of multiple instances of people with whom I've been personally acquainted where it actually turned out that, "bought me a large diamond," didn't ACTUALLY end up meaning, "loves me the most," as things played out.
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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With all due respect, this does seem extremely shallow. Is there more to why the value of the ring is so important to you? Does $10,000 USD convert to a certain amount of love currency (we can call them Hearts). How many Hearts does $10,000 equate to? $20,000? I'm curious as well.

Does the amount spent translate into how much he loves you? Or does the pride you get from showing your friends your expensive ring indirectly translate into how much he loves you?
Please, "with all due respect", tell me where, in anything I have said, that there was a specific monetary value attached.

Thanks.
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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It's funny, I can think of multiple instances of people with whom I've been personally acquainted where it actually turned out that, "bought me a large diamond," didn't ACTUALLY end up meaning, "loves me the most," as things played out.
of course! it doesn't mean anything. it is a material item.

it is only valuable because people make it valuable. if all of a sudden NO ONE on the planet wanted them, then they would be literally nothing but pebbles. its not like a gadget where you can do something with it. its just a.... THING. lol i dont know how to explain it.
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Dothan AL
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I'm a woman but i wanted to chime in because i agree 100%. I'd rather put the money toward a down payment on a house. Honestly, i would never spend that much money on my boyfriend so i don't expect him to spend that on me. if i change my mind later on and want something expensive, then i'm down to split it with him as we make close to the same salary.
Good deal! I have some fine rings and never wear them, but I use my home every day
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:14 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Can't. I didn't get an engagement ring, so there's nothing to show. My wedding ring was lost 10 years ago and never replaced, so I can't show that either. Maybe my ring finger, which obviously has no dent or tan line? Nah... I could still have the big rock secretly stashed with all the rest of my jewels.
Wait, was that you behind the Antwerp diamond heist???
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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Please, "with all due respect", tell me where, in anything I have said, that there was a specific monetary value attached.

Thanks.
I think you've made it clear in your posts that size of the diamond (aka price) matters a great deal to you.

So, with that said, what's your price tag? How much do you think that you're worth? Or in your terms, how much would you expect him to spend?

If you don't want to answer, that's fine. I was just curious.
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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I think you've made it clear in your posts that size of the diamond (aka price) matters a great deal to you.
And, I don't happen to agree that I've said anything remotely close to that. Come to think of it, I don't think I've used the word "diamond" in any of my responses.


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So, with that said, what's your price tag? How much do you think that you're worth? Or in your terms, how much would you expect him to spend?
With all due respect, you are reading a hell of a lot into my words.

With that said, I don't have a price tag, and never did have one.


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If you don't want to answer, that's fine.
I'd be happy to answer if the question was actually relevant to what I've said.
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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of course! it doesn't mean anything. it is a material item.

it is only valuable because people make it valuable. if all of a sudden NO ONE on the planet wanted them, then they would be literally nothing but pebbles. its not like a gadget where you can do something with it. its just a.... THING. lol i dont know how to explain it.
The satire website, College Humor, did a pretty funny skit on the DeBeers Marketing Scam back in the 40s-50s(?) that essentially started the tradition of selling (literally worthless) stones as eternal trinkets of love.

The company was the chief producer of diamonds during WWII, and after the war ended, they needed a way to sell off these stones that were used in war production for cutting metals, etc. Some genius in the marketing department came up with what we all know as the DeBeers Diamond marketing campaign. "A diamond is forever".

Sad, but true. Look it up.
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