Why Palm Beach County is not Growing ? (Miami, Davie: home, construction)

[Balkins]

Thanks THX,

8% !

Not a good idea. Business would suffer and the overall objective of raising more $ for Fire/Rescue would be defeated IMO.

The main purpose of my thread was to generate IDEAS on the "why" PB was not growing like other areas.

True, there are A LOT of shady areas in RB, but once you get over the bridge, you're on Singer Island opulence. The contrast between the haves and have-nots just seems to be more stark to me...!

I see a few new RE projects going on in DOWNTOWN.

[john-staten island]

I don't like any tax increase although I'd rather see it spread across on a sales tax than property tax. Property owners pay their share already. Stores run sales that would offset the tax if you shop wisely.I'm sure non property owners disagree with me,lol. Boca Raton has done a pretty good job of belt tightening in the last few years,the county needs to also.

[The First]

Originally Posted by john-staten island

I don't like any tax increase although I'd rather see it spread across on a sales tax than property tax. Property owners pay their share already. Stores run sales that would offset the tax if you shop wisely.I'm sure non property owners disagree with me,lol. Boca Raton has done a pretty good job of belt tightening in the last few years,the county needs to also.

Personally. What i see are retail stores struggling to pay the rent. If you put any more weight on them surely they will go under. As a consumer I would certainly shop online for any goods that I need to be shipped right to my door and pay less.

In my opinion, this is only another tax to fund unneeded an unwanted government services to fund outrageous retirement pensions funds of public workers.

[THX 1138]

Originally Posted by The First

In my opinion, this is only another tax to fund unneeded an unwanted government services to fund outrageous retirement pensions funds of public workers.

Fire Rescue Employees make above average wages, to start it's around $80K/year without factoring in OT. I know people who work for PBFR who make in excess of $125K/year + upwards of $15K extra OT.

I also know people who work for PBC, Director Level jobs, no college education pulling in over $110K/year, salaries are public so it's easy to look them up online.

That's only the tip of the iceberg when you look what county employees make on average, some higher level positions are even more outrageous. These are the people who are doing good for themselves here. Not one of them I know is struggling, own huge homes and live in gates communities.

Look at the requirements for PBFR, no Bachelors or Masters Required, not that it's easy to get in but compensation is way above the norm.

What requirements do I need to meet in order to apply for a job at Palm Beach County Fire Rescue?

be at least 18 years of age,
have a high school diploma or GED,
hold at least Florida certification as a State of Florida Firefighter through the Firefighter Minimum Standards Training,
have passed an IAFF-CPAT within the last year, and
hold a valid EMT or Paramedic license with the state of Florida

[The First]

Originally Posted by THX 1138

Fire Rescue Employees make above average wages, to start it's around $80K/year without factoring in OT. I know people who work for PBFR who make in excess of $125K/year + upwards of $15K extra OT.

I also know people who work for PBC, Director Level jobs, no college education pulling in over $110K/year, salaries are public so it's easy to look them up online.

That's only the tip of the iceberg when you look what county employees make on average, some higher level positions are even more outrageous. These are the people who are doing good for themselves here. Not one of them I know is struggling, own huge homes and live in gates communities.

Look at the requirements for PBFR, no Bachelors or Masters Required, not that it's easy to get in but compensation is way above the norm.

What requirements do I need to meet in order to apply for a job at Palm Beach County Fire Rescue?

be at least 18 years of age,
have a high school diploma or GED,
hold at least Florida certification as a State of Florida Firefighter through the Firefighter Minimum Standards Training,
have passed an IAFF-CPAT within the last year, and
hold a valid EMT or Paramedic license with the state of Florida

What a disgrace! Most coming out college with a ba struggle to get a job that pays 40k.

Not to mention the over funded pensions. The condition of this country is not good. This is happening all over the union because of lobbying and weak politicians.

90% of all fire rescue calls r to retirement comm., or "the hood" where some one has gotten shot. Or a cat is stuck in the in a tree.

This trend of gov.workers feeding off the public trouf will Break this country. Busted pensions, higher taxes, small businesses busted, fewer competitors, little services, higher costs for services, ----not a pretty picture at all.

The disgrace is THEIR LOBBY is conning the public and local officials to vote for more$ to feed the system.

Who will pay for this??? Seniors on fixed incomes? Small mom/pop businesses w 1-2 employees?

The boomers?

Your looking at neg.interest rates because the economy is so slow, banks cant even make biz. Loans to small biz because they arent making enough $.

Local gov. Raising sales tax?

Some self-serving gov. Union hired lobbyist to proliferated this scam.

[THX 1138]

Originally Posted by The First

What a disgrace! Most coming out college with a ba struggle to get a job that pays 40k.

Not to mention the over funded pensions. The condition of this country is not good. This is happening all over the union because of lobbying and weak politicians.

90% of all fire rescue calls r to retirement comm., or "the hood" where some one has gotten shot. Or a cat is stuck in the in a tree.

This trend of gov.workers feeding off the public trouf will Break this country. Busted pensions, higher taxes, small businesses busted, fewer competitors, little services, higher costs for services, ----not a pretty picture at all.

The disgrace is THEIR LOBBY is conning the public and local officials to vote for more$ to feed the system.

Who will pay for this??? Seniors on fixed incomes? Small mom/pop businesses w 1-2 employees?

The boomers?

Your looking at neg.interest rates because the economy is so slow, banks cant even make biz. Loans to small biz because they arent making enough $.

Local gov. Raising sales tax?

Some self-serving gov. Union hired lobbyist to proliferated this scam.

Yes and most out of college accrue student loan debt they cannot pay back...just depends what field you are in it can be worse or better.

I should say the starting Salary is $42,117.50, but the median is around $80K across the department, well it was a number of years ago.

Palm Beach County Fire Rescue - Firefighter Benefits (Career Development)

This info is dated, but you can see what County Workers Earn, gross wages + OT, many if not all got raises so figure in salary.

PALM BEACH COUNTY PAY

This one is newer:

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-pa...e-100k-or-more

[eqttrdr]

why? simple..

More and more ghetto thugs waste of life spreading like a virus that nobody in their right mind would live around. Infecting all of Florida beyond repair unless you round them up and ship them to another state.

[Balkins]

Originally Posted by eqttrdr

why? simple..

More and more ghetto thugs waste of life spreading like a virus that nobody in their right mind would live around. Infecting all of Florida beyond repair unless you round them up and ship them to another state.

True, but this is happening all over the USA.

If you can build a high enough fence then you can live in the Jungle.

POINT BEING: Palm beach county is poised for growth, just not sure how much and how fast it will happen.

[THX 1138]

Originally Posted by Balkins

POINT BEING: Palm beach county is poised for growth, just not sure how much and how fast it will happen.

Growth of jobs, not so much...growth of people who do not need to work, guaranteed.

Traffic woes, guaranteed...traffic is getting progressively worse here each year, one scene of construction in PBC, is the new I-95 interchange at FAU which is a few years away from being completed. It will not help alleve traffic in Boca though, which is relentless and heavy no matter what road you take.

They already predicted some roadways in PBC will be gridlocked in time, commute times are already becoming longer.

Can Palm Beach County have growth without gridlock? Two math problems. | The Opinion Zone

[OptimusPrime69]

Originally Posted by THX 1138

Growth of jobs, not so much...growth of people who do not need to work, guaranteed.

Traffic woes, guaranteed...traffic is getting progressively worse here each year, one scene of construction in PBC, is the new I-95 interchange at FAU which is a few years away from being completed. It will not help alleve traffic in Boca though, which is relentless and heavy no matter what road you take.

They already predicted some roadways in PBC will be gridlocked in time, commute times are already becoming longer.

Can Palm Beach County have growth without gridlock? Two math problems. | The Opinion Zone

I lived in Boca for many years until recently when I took a job in Miami and let me tell you...Boca traffic is NOTHING compared to Miami traffic. I would beg for traffic in Miami to be like Boca. I really dont think traffic in Boca is "relentless" and heavy. lol. It's pretty tame. Yes, it's heavy at rush hour on glades rd, but I mean that's it IMO. Yamato traffic is never bad. Palmetto Park Rd isn't bad either. I dont find military or powerline to be over congested either. Camino? No problem.... where in Boca is traffic so bad?