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Old 05-09-2011, 08:28 PM
 
Location: nunya
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Lightbulb TransGas Coal-to-Gasoline Complex Begins Construction

TransGas Coal-to-Gasoline complex begins construction | Conservative Byte

By way of an internationally attended groundbreaking ceremony, TransGas Development Systems, LLC, has begun construction of America’s largest Coal-to-Gasoline complex, the Adams Fork Energy plant in Mingo County, West Virginia. The ceremony was conducted today on the project site at Wharncliffe, West Virginia, USA. The Adams Fork Energy plant will convert regional coal into 18,000 barrels per day of premium grade, ultra clean gasoline.
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Huntington, WV
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It will be interesting to see how successful this plant is. It won't even be operational for another 5 years so trying to predict the cost of gas at that time would be impossible. If the price of gas stays where it is or goes higher, this could be very successful and spawn the construction of more plants. This then gives another use for coal and makes gas powered vehicles more sustainable long-term. Then it becomes a question of does the gas stay in state or do we ship it out to other states?

Southern WV could be the Saudi Arabia of the U.S. Wouldn't that be funny.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Clendenin, WV
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Southern WV could be the Saudi Arabia of the U.S. Wouldn't that be funny.
Just think, We could turn both coal and natural gas into fuel for our cars! We need to start building up like Dubai

Burj DaMingo
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:19 PM
 
Location: nunya
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Here's another article with more depth.

Page one: Mingo coal-to-gas plant breaks ground* - News - The Charleston Gazette - West Virginia News and Sports -

Page two: Mingo coal-to-gas plant breaks ground* - News - The Charleston Gazette - West Virginia News and Sports -

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- TransGas Development Systems marked the start of its $4 billion coal-to-gasoline plant with a groundbreaking ceremony in Mingo County Monday, promising to create 300 jobs and help bring down the price of gas.


The New York-based company said the plant will covert 7,500 tons of coal a day into 756,000 gallons of premium gasoline -- about a third of the amount of gas used in West Virginia each day. TransGas plans to start construction in July and complete the project within four years. .....
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Lake Forest, CA
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I always wonder about the net fuel effeciency of alternative fuel sources. For example, ethanol produces a fuel from corn oil, but in order to product one gallon of ethanol more than a gallon of fossil fuel (gasoline or diesel) is consumed to plant, harvest and transport the corn to a distillery, then brew the ethanol, and transport the ethanol to a point of sale. We would be better off if the ethanol was never produced, because we would still have the gallon of oil that was consumed to create the gallon of ethanol, and the food supply would have use of the corn.

So, in order to create one gallon of gasoline from coal, how much fossil fuel equivalent will it take to mine the coal, transport it to the new plant, create the new fuel from coal, and move the fuel to a pipeline or to a point of sale? If the answer is that 4 or more gallons of gasoline are brewed from liquified coal by consuming one gallon of fossil fuel, that would be a good tradeoff. Now I'm curious, time to googleit.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:24 PM
 
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and the plant in Morgantown is operational and not being used.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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and the plant in Morgantown is operational and not being used.
They had one in Marshall County in the 70s that was operational too. They closed it because it was not economically feasible. It did the job, but as soon as serious competition comes along the Saudis drop the price of oil long enough to drive the competition under then raise it again. It's a nice thought, and for a place as desperate as Mingo for jobs cause for hope, but I think the prospects for long term success are limited at best.
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: nunya
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Coal-derived fuel bill introduced in Congress

Coal-derived fuel bill introduced in Congress - NewsandSentinel.com | News, Sports, Jobs, Community Information - Parkersburg News and Sentinel (http://www.newsandsentinel.com/page/content.detail/id/137496/Coal-derived-fuel-bill-introduced-in-Congress-.html?isap=1&nav=5071 - broken link)

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — Some of the nation's fuels would be required to contain a minimum volume derived from coal under a bill introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives.




Republican Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia said Thursday that using coal to produce fuels for vehicles, machinery and aircraft would further reduce U.S. reliance on foreign oil. She says it also would create good-paying jobs and increase the nation's energy security.




Democrat Nick Rahall is a co-sponsor of the bill.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Clendenin, WV
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That is what I like to hear! Two WV reps who are trying to get something done.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:01 AM
 
Location: nunya
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It's getting close to election time again. Sort of like the boss pulling into the parking lot while everyone is playing cards.

I agree though, and it would be nice if this is how it always worked.

I still like the C-2-G (coal to gas) idea over stinking ethanol.
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