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Old 07-11-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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West Virginia is now connected by expressway to Uniontown, PA. It will be completed to Brownsville in 2012.

Mon-Fayette Expressway
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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They need to expand this expressway all the way to downtown Pittsburgh and get rid of the tolls. It could make the commute to Pittsburgh around an hour, and Morgantown could grow alongside with Pittsburgh. If only politicians in both states had such foresight.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:05 PM
 
Location: ADK via WV
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They need to expand this expressway all the way to downtown Pittsburgh and get rid of the tolls. It could make the commute to Pittsburgh around an hour, and Morgantown could grow alongside with Pittsburgh. If only politicians in both states had such foresight.
there isn't any tolls in WV, so it would be on PA for that
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:30 PM
 
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there isn't any tolls in WV, so it would be on PA for that
I know. PA is doing everything they can to stop an expressway between Morgantown and Pittsburgh from being created. It would cause people from PA t relocate to the Morgantown area, and some businesses in PA to relocate in Morgantown also.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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I know. PA is doing everything they can to stop an expressway between Morgantown
False.

The state doesn't have close to the funds to complete the mostly costly portion (Allegheny County). It's insanely expensive.

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It would cause people from PA t relocate to the Morgantown area
We'll never know we'll we? Oh wait, I-79 has been around for decades and we do know.

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and some businesses in PA to relocate in Morgantown also.
If it made sense to do so. I can't see the much smaller workforce is a draw for many companies.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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False.

The state doesn't have close to the funds to complete the mostly costly portion (Allegheny County). It's insanely expensive.



We'll never know we'll we? Oh wait, I-79 has been around for decades and we do know.



If it made sense to do so. I can't see the much smaller workforce is a draw for many companies.
Wrong on all counts. The road was supposed to go all the way to Pittsburgh, but businesses complained they would lose out to WV so it only goes to Uniontown.

If it went all the way to Pittsburgh it would reduce the time by 30 minutes making Pittsburgh to Morgantown an hour long commute. People from Burgh would relocate to Morgantown. It doesnt matter Morgantown will thrive despite the best efforts of the WV government and PA governments trying to hinder it.
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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We'll never know we'll we? Oh wait, I-79 has been around for decades and we do know.
I-79 isn't quite a direct route between those 2 city pairs...

At any rate, when you look at this road on a map you have to ask yourself, how did something like this get funding?
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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Commuters from WV are never mentioned in the debates over the Mon Valley Expressway, at least not in the Pittsburgh papers or on Pittsburgh radio.

Cost is, by far, the #1 reason the last section isn't being built, and may never be built. There simply is no corridor it can follow without resulting in very expensive land acquisition.

The #2 obstacle is those who don't want to see established neighborhoods either eliminated or divided in two by the expressway.

The former governor was trying to pay for highway construction by either 1) selling I-80 to a private company (which would charge tolls) or 2) operating it as a toll road, but the Feds put the kibosh on that.

By the way, I drove the new WV section of the MVE this afternoon... very nice, a couple of impressive bridges, but I do agree with CT that the signage ought to list more than Cheat Lake & Uniontown.
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Old 07-11-2011, 06:51 PM
 
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Commuters from WV are never mentioned in the debates over the Mon Valley Expressway, at least not in the Pittsburgh papers or on Pittsburgh radio.

Cost is, by far, the #1 reason the last section isn't being built, and may never be built. There simply is no corridor it can follow without resulting in very expensive land acquisition.

The #2 obstacle is those who don't want to see established neighborhoods either eliminated or divided in two by the expressway.

The former governor was trying to pay for highway construction by either 1) selling I-80 to a private company (which would charge tolls) or 2) operating it as a toll road, but the Feds put the kibosh on that.

By the way, I drove the new WV section of the MVE this afternoon... very nice, a couple of impressive bridges, but I do agree with CT that the signage ought to list more than Cheat Lake & Uniontown.
You dont understand how politics work. The "debates" for anything is a public show. Decisions are made behind closed doors with lobbyist. Morgantown doesnt have a lobby, but existing businesses around Pittsburgh do. They didnt want Pittsburgh to spend money on a road that would hurt them in the short run. Not just because of competition from Morgantown, but new competition springing up around the interstate. In the long run both cities would benefit, but decisions such as these are never made in the long run interest of the public.
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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False.

The state doesn't have close to the funds to complete the mostly costly portion (Allegheny County). It's insanely expensive.



We'll never know we'll we? Oh wait, I-79 has been around for decades and we do know.



If it made sense to do so. I can't see the much smaller workforce is a draw for many companies.
I-79 takes people way out on the west side of Pittsburgh, miles from the notorious tunnels. This one basically follows the Mon River through a much more populous area. The tolls are an issue (they often are in PA), but you only have to go through one "booth"with EZ Pass so they are not time consuming. I made the drive from Morgantown to Uniontown today in less than 20 minutes along a beautiful highway.

A larger workforce isn't keeping companies or jobs in Pittsburgh, and they won't keep jobs from relocating to North Central. A different work ethic, lower local taxes, and lower crime rate will help explain developments, just as they explain the fact that Mon County is gaining population and Allegheny County is losing population. Yoiu might well see some Pittsburgers moving to these parts too.

In any event, the expressway will work to the advantage of everyone in the long run.
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