WV communities that might see growth in near future? (Charleston: best city, lawyers)

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by Chriscross309

Olive Garden would be nice

But for a small WV town that had nothing when I was a young lad, I'll take these things.

I thought you were from Charleston. I hope when you travel to a nice small town you would try local fare and not some chain place.

Seriously, these franchises dont make this country anymore. They are dumping grounds for chinese goods, terrible food that is unhealthy and nasty, and trendy overpriced low quality clothes.

I bet this country was a lot better before generic franchises and McHouses popped up everywhere.

[David Kennedy]

CRY_HAVOC...I had to reply.

The small communities and the larger towns were inclusive. Blacks and jews had businesses, in the larger cities other ethnic groups had businesses.
There was a segregation but it was a community thing with identity and that is what has been lost.

Now we want diversity and a mixing of the gene pool. Some groups draw a line of social distinction there.

We want affirmative action where in most cases the most excellent or greatest of achievers are tossed by the wayside.

Some times social experiments don't work. They ruin initiative and cannot be replaced.

One of my best friends prided himself on being able to say that he was a businessman. He was one of the very last in my community. He was also very successful....it never meant anything to me, that he was black
.
What we've lost is personal pride and an excellence in doing things...all of this fits into the social fabric of what this country has become.

To me it was a finer linen then...now a tattered rag of sorts.
Not much to be proud of...politics has done that to us.

If we did own a business, would we hire any of those people to work for us? ha ha ha

[Chriscross309]

Originally Posted by cry_havoc

I thought you were from Charleston. I hope when you travel to a nice small town you would try local fare and not some chain place.

Seriously, these franchises dont make this country anymore. They are dumping grounds for chinese goods, terrible food that is unhealthy and nasty, and trendy overpriced low quality clothes.

I bet this country was a lot better before generic franchises and McHouses popped up everywhere.

I agree, but places like Elkview that have no local business will take any kind of restaurants. Never said these were my number one choices for meals or shopping.

Our country was probably alot healthy and conservative in making money choices before chains and McMansions. But chains brought convienience to America along with more diversity in what kind of restaurant you could eat at or store you could shop in.

[Chriscross309]

Originally Posted by CTMountaineer

Do you have any idea what it costs to fund a hundred miles of this type of road? You'd need a lot more than a few Wendy's and Auto Zones to make it worthwhile. You'd also need more than 8 or 10 white water rafting trips during warm weather months. You'd need MAJOR industrial or similar development employing thousands to make it worthwhile. We already have that in place in Morgantown and a lot more is waiting in the wings for the infrastructure to develop. Build the roads for us, and the tax revenue alone would help build your corridors to nowhere and the spin off Baskin and Robins stores.

What are you talking about? I'm just pointing out some new business that has started up in Elkview which is no where near Corridor H. I agree though that to make that highway worth the efforts, it would have to produce alot more than a few fast food places and a couple gas stations.

Here is the impact I think will happen when Corridor H is finished all the way into Virginia. Moorefield and Petersburg will grow into both commercial and industrial hubs for their region. I could several warehouse type facilities to the north of town, and along the highway lots of commercial development. Also the historic nature of the town will finally be realized and tourism within it will pick up. Locally owned shops and restaurants in downtown would pick up, as well as people moving in to counter the demand for workers. Other towns along the route would do the same thing, like Parsons, Davis, and Thomas.

The whole tourism industry would see a huge boom and would start to diversify in what it offered. It would be easier for people to reach our ski slopes, state parks, national forest, and natural beauty. Downs like Davis and Thomas could become major stops that could result in new hotels and restaurants, and they don't have to be chains. Cannan Valley would grow, and you might see more people building homes there. The resort itself would see a huge boost, and it might offer more to visitors. The south branch and Seneca Rocks would benifit from the highway. So too would Spruce Knob and Dolly Sods. You get people that before wouldn't come because it took too long, now they'd come because it was a good distance away. Of course the towns on the west side of the highway like Elkins and Buckhannon would grow too. Industrial development would sprout up there aswell because it would then be easier to transport goods to the coast for shipping. Don't count out what can add up to be a big step in making WV a well rounded state.

[CTMountaineer]

Originally Posted by Chriscross309

What are you talking about? I'm just pointing out some new business that has started up in Elkview which is no where near Corridor H. I agree though that to make that highway worth the efforts, it would have to produce alot more than a few fast food places and a couple gas stations.

Here is the impact I think will happen when Corridor H is finished all the way into Virginia. Moorefield and Petersburg will grow into both commercial and industrial hubs for their region. I could several warehouse type facilities to the north of town, and along the highway lots of commercial development. Also the historic nature of the town will finally be realized and tourism within it will pick up. Locally owned shops and restaurants in downtown would pick up, as well as people moving in to counter the demand for workers. Other towns along the route would do the same thing, like Parsons, Davis, and Thomas.

The whole tourism industry would see a huge boom and would start to diversify in what it offered. It would be easier for people to reach our ski slopes, state parks, national forest, and natural beauty. Downs like Davis and Thomas could become major stops that could result in new hotels and restaurants, and they don't have to be chains. Cannan Valley would grow, and you might see more people building homes there. The resort itself would see a huge boost, and it might offer more to visitors. The south branch and Seneca Rocks would benifit from the highway. So too would Spruce Knob and Dolly Sods. You get people that before wouldn't come because it took too long, now they'd come because it was a good distance away. Of course the towns on the west side of the highway like Elkins and Buckhannon would grow too. Industrial development would sprout up there aswell because it would then be easier to transport goods to the coast for shipping. Don't count out what can add up to be a big step in making WV a well rounded state.

Maybe you're right, and maybe you're wrong. And, that is my point. Your position offers nothing close to a sure thing. Meeting existing and demonstrated demand does exactly that. Just because, with your crystal ball, you could see the things you mentioned happening is by no means a guarantee. It might also be that the tourism that exists is there because the area in question is not further developed, and putting four lane expressways where no current high traffic load exists would destroy the allure of the places.

[CTMountaineer]

Originally Posted by David Kennedy

CRY_HAVOC...I had to reply.

The small communities and the larger towns were inclusive. Blacks and jews had businesses, in the larger cities other ethnic groups had businesses.
There was a segregation but it was a community thing with identity and that is what has been lost.

Now we want diversity and a mixing of the gene pool. Some groups draw a line of social distinction there.

We want affirmative action where in most cases the most excellent or greatest of achievers are tossed by the wayside.

Some times social experiments don't work. They ruin initiative and cannot be replaced.

One of my best friends prided himself on being able to say that he was a businessman. He was one of the very last in my community. He was also very successful....it never meant anything to me, that he was black
.
What we've lost is personal pride and an excellence in doing things...all of this fits into the social fabric of what this country has become.

To me it was a finer linen then...now a tattered rag of sorts.
Not much to be proud of...politics has done that to us.

If we did own a business, would we hire any of those people to work for us? ha ha ha

You're on to something here, but my opinion is the social experiments are just a smoke screen for the real "experiment". The real experiment is whether the "globalist" socially engineered mindset will enable the elitists, who in reality control just about everything, to accumulate even more American middle class assets and make them their own. It looks like that experiment is mightily successful.

[Chriscross309]

Originally Posted by CTMountaineer

Maybe you're right, and maybe you're wrong. And, that is my point. Your position offers nothing close to a sure thing. Meeting existing and demonstrated demand does exactly that. Just because, with your crystal ball, you could see the things you mentioned happening is by no means a guarantee. It might also be that the tourism that exists is there because the area in question is not further developed, and putting four lane expressways where no current high traffic load exists would destroy the allure of the places.

It is called planning ahead. Something Morgantown really didn't do. If you plan things out, more than likey things happen as expected. Take Bridgeport and Jerry Dove Drive for example. They saw they potiential growth for having the FBI center, and now that area has developed. If the state wants to plan for the future, which is promising with the Shale gas boom, then by all means let them. And fact is that the road isn't being worked on so there is no point in anybody getting upset about road construction.

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by Chriscross309

It is called planning ahead. Something Morgantown really didn't do. If you plan things out, more than likey things happen as expected. Take Bridgeport and Jerry Dove Drive for example. They saw they potiential growth for having the FBI center, and now that area has developed. If the state wants to plan for the future, which is promising with the Shale gas boom, then by all means let them. And fact is that the road isn't being worked on so there is no point in anybody getting upset about road construction.

To be honest no one could have seen the Morgantown Miracle. A small town in WV becoming one of the best and most successful cities in the US is incredible improbable.

I agree the local Morgantown government is incompetent. The lack of zoning is a big problem and smarter growth would really benefit the city. For that Morgantown has itself to blame. However, some blame lies with the county. Morgantown is only 10 sq miles, and the county controls the area around Morgantown. They love the growth, but are too quick to promote out of control growth instead of directing it. Also voters in some parts of Mon county arent the most informed. Most of the blame lies with the state government who refuses to give Morgantown anything other than far below the bare minimum of what it should get. You would think they would take pride in having such a great city, but the crooks who control the state realize that a strong Morgantown could actually lead to the end of their personal kingdom.

[CTMountaineer]

Originally Posted by Chriscross309

It is called planning ahead. Something Morgantown really didn't do. If you plan things out, more than likey things happen as expected. Take Bridgeport and Jerry Dove Drive for example. They saw they potiential growth for having the FBI center, and now that area has developed. If the state wants to plan for the future, which is promising with the Shale gas boom, then by all means let them. And fact is that the road isn't being worked on so there is no point in anybody getting upset about road construction.

The FBI Center was assured before the Jerry Dove development. Your proposal might just be wishful thinking. If 250 years of potential has not resulted in significant development in those areas, what assurance could you provide that a four land road would do it?

You are right that things could have been better planned here, but planning would still not have gotten state government off its pork barrel special interest duff to do anything. The only thing that is bringing about action is changing demographics. More people here mean the politicos have little choice but to start paying attention because we do vote in these environs. Boss Hogg barely won the election as it is. He realizes that he has to start hedging his bets. We just need to make sure he doesn't forget that this is just the beginning. Believe me, we are well aware around here that he would have been more than content to continue to ignore our needs and fund projects in the middle of nowhere closer to his hometown constituency.

[drs72]

Originally Posted by cry_havoc

To be honest no one could have seen the Morgantown Miracle. A small town in WV becoming one of the best and most successful cities in the US is incredible improbable.

I love Morgantown, but give me a break! It's home to a major national university. Everything Morgantown has become can be attributed to WVU in one way or another. College towns are generally pretty well off. What's truly impressive is when a down-and-out industrial town reinvents itself and becomes prosperous again (what every rustbelt town from Maryland to Minnesota has been trying to do for decades).