Gay Rights in West Virginia (Huntington, Williamson: city hall, sex offender, credit card)

[Hinton Bound]

[quote=harborlady;7369854]GHO's perception of hostility aren't all in his head. It's in your language. When I see him equated with incest or child molesters... and now he's responsible for an entire disease category??? /quote]
AIDS was spread by the gay community. 10's of millions dead. We should overlook this, and place them on the pedestal to worship? Shame on anyone who dares offend the almighty gay agenda!! 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

I send my kids to school to learn reading, writing, and aritmetic- not about Johnnys two dads, or Lizzie the lesbian. Is this the new America? Bankrupt (financially and morally), Socialist, and gay? No thanks. I don't accept or approve of it.

Originally Posted by harborlady

My guess is they'd take it the way women would when a man is careless with their feelings.

Hilarious. Does this mean I should by stock in Scott tissue company?

[Hinton Bound]

Alex, I'd like to buy an "h" and a "u" please.

[millersangel]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

Were you trying to make a point? If so, you did a poor job.

So a gay kid was killed. People are killed every day. Black kids, white kids, Asian kids, more types than I can type here. Why do their deaths not stick in your mind? Are you so indoctrinated by the gay mafia that only a gay death is worthy of your memory? How about all the straight people that have died of AIDS? How about Ryan White? Remember him? He was a straight white kid, so I doubt you would... AIDS came from the gay communtiy, spread by a gay Canadian flight attendant. But I bet you forgot that, the millions that died BEACUASE of gays.
Get a grip, stop drinking the kool-aide.

Yes, I think I did make the point why that particular story remains etched in my brain. Sorry you missed it. Maybe you should stop smoking the home grown.

Responding by saying that there are murders every day is not a valid argument. We're talking about hate crimes here. Uh duh.

And now, read very carefully, this is how AIDS originated. It's a lot more complex than a flight attendent bringing into the US so you might have a little trouble reconciling it with your black/white view.

Please note the bold paragraph.

Most HIV researchers agree that HIV evolved from the closely related Simian Immunodeficiency Virus (SIV), and that HIV was transferred from non-human primates to humans in the recent past (as a type of zoonosis). Research in this area is conducted using molecular phylogenetics, comparing viral genomic sequences to determine relatedness.

Because HIV-1 is closely related to a strain of the simian immunodeficiency virus that infects the chimpanzee subspecies Pan troglodytes troglodytes (SIVcpz), scientists generally accept that the virus originated in populations of wild chimpanzees in West-Central Africa. Exactly where this occurred — in the southeastern rain forests of Cameroon (modern East Province) near the Sanaga River, or further south near Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of the Congo — has been a matter of scientific discussion.

Using HIV-1 sequences preserved in human biological samples along with estimates of viral mutation rates, scientists calculate that the jump from chimpanzee to human probably happened during the late 19th or early 20th century, a time of rapid urbanisation and colonialisation in equatorial Africa. Exactly when the zoonosis occurred is not known. Some estimates suggest that HIV-1 (group M) entered the human population in the early 20th century, probably between 1915 and 1941. A study published in 2008, analyzing viral sequences recovered from a recently-discovered 1960 biopsy along with previously-known sequences, suggested a common ancestor between 1884 and 1924.

May 1983: LAV
In May 1983, doctors from Dr. Luc Montagnier's team at the Pasteur Institute in France, reported that they had isolated a new retrovirus from lymphoid ganglions that they believed was the cause of AIDS.[46] The virus was later named lymphadenopathy-associated virus (LAV) and a sample was sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, which was later passed to the National Cancer Institute (NCI).

May 1984: HTLV-III
In May 1984 a team led by Robert Gallo of the United States confirmed the discovery of the virus, but they renamed it human T lymphotropic virus type III (HTLV-III).

Jan 1985: both found to be the same
In January 1985 a number of more detailed reports were published concerning LAV and HTLV-III, and by March it was clear that the viruses were the same, were from the same source, and were the etiological agent of AIDS.

May 1986: the name HIV
In May 1986, the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses ruled that both names should be dropped and a new name, HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus), be used.

Spread to the western hemisphere
HIV-1 strains are thought to have arrived in the United States from Haiti in the late 1960s or early 1970s. HIV-1 is believed to have arrived in Haiti from central Africa, possibly through professional contacts with the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Because of the long incubation period of HIV (up to a decade or longer) before symptoms of AIDS appear, and because of the initially low incidence, AIDS was not noticed at first. By the time the first reported cases of AIDS were found in large United States cities, the prevalence of HIV infection in some communities had passed 5%. Worldwide, HIV infection has spread from urban to rural areas, and has appeared in regions such as China and India.

1981–2: From GRID to AIDS
The AIDS epidemic officially began on June 5, 1981, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report newsletter reported unusual clusters of Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) caused by a form of Pneumocystis carinii (now recognized as a distinct species Pneumocystis jirovecii) in five homosexual men in Los Angeles.[

Over the next 18 months, more PCP clusters were discovered among otherwise healthy men in cities throughout the country, along with other opportunistic diseases (such as Kaposi's sarcoma and persistent, generalized lymphadenopathy, common in immunosuppressed patients.

In June 1982, a report of a group of cases amongst gay men in Southern California suggested that a sexually transmitted infectious agent might be the etiological agent,] and the syndrome was initially termed "GRID", or gay-related immune deficiency.

Health authorities soon realized that nearly half of the people identified with the syndrome were not homosexual men. The same opportunistic infections were also reported among hemophiliacs, heterosexual intravenous drug users, and Haitian immigrants.
By August 1982, the disease was being referred to by its new CDC-coined name: Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS).

[Hinton Bound]

Originally Posted by millersangel

Responding by saying that there are murders every day is not a valid argument. We're talking about hate crimes here. Uh duh.

So you don't believe we're all equal? How astonishing. You're a fine suject. Swill the kool-aide, spread the message. Well done. You are the cancer that is rotting America from within.

I happen to think we are all equal. No ones life is more important than anyone elses. No one gets "special" rights or consideration. But then again, in your Utopia that doesn't fit does it?

[corgis]

This is getting a little too hateful in here.

[millersangel]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

You are the cancer that is rotting America from within.

Why thank you, honey. I didn't know I was that important.

And you're just another "brick in the wall" sweetie.

Is that less hateful, Corgis? :)

[Hinton Bound]

Originally Posted by millersangel

Why thank you, honey. I didn't know I was that important.

And you're just another "brick in the wall" sweetie.

Is that less hateful, Corgis?

Can't reference Pink Floyd and be hateful in the same post, and she called me sweetie and honey.

[Mountaineer1863]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

So you don't believe we're all equal? How astonishing. You're a fine suject. Swill the kool-aide, spread the message. Well done. You are the cancer that is rotting America from within.

I happen to think we are all equal. No ones life is more important than anyone elses. No one gets "special" rights or consideration. But then again, in your Utopia that doesn't fit does it?

Ya know, it was just a couple years ago that I lived within a few miles of Hinton. What a beautiful and historic town Hinton is. It is just a tad irritating to read posts purportedly written by those with ties to Hinton that reek of latent homophobia. As near as I can see, MillersAngel has done nothing less then to put forth valid information. I read nothing in your posts that in any suggested the posts were invalid. Rather, I sensed a homophobia inherent in ALL your posts in this thread. It appears to this impartial observer that "thou protesteth too much" in your assertions of equality for all. It really isnt very complicated. I do not think anyone has asserted an inherent superiority here, whether discussing gender, race, religion or lack thereof. As for everybody being equal, we all know thats hardly true at all. We are entitled to equal protection under the law, but I really dont know anyone who is exactly equal to someone else.

I just saw your recognition of the Pink Floyd post in a recent post you just made, so I will back off and assume that my initial reaction of homophobia was wrong. At least I hope so. Hinton and Summers County are way to nice of a place to be for it to be otherwise.

[Hinton Bound]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1863

It is just a tad irritating to read posts purportedly written by those with ties to Hinton that reek of latent homophobia.

Not purportedly, they are actually authored by me.

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1863

I read nothing in your posts that in any suggested the posts were invalid..

Peoples opinions aren't invalid. To her, they are valid. I disagree with them.

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1863

Rather, I sensed a homophobia inherent in ALL your posts in this thread.

Homophobia? No. Strong dislike for having their lifestyple imposed upon me or my family. Yes

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1863

As for everybody being equal, we all know thats hardly true at all. We are entitled to equal protection under the law.

Then you oppose Hate Crimes. EQUAL protection means it's no worse of a crime based on the sexual orientation of the victim.

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1863

I just saw your recognition of the Pink Floyd post in a recent post you just made, so I will back off and assume that my initial reaction of homophobia was wrong.

There is no equal in the music world. I saw them in a floating concert in Venice back in the late 80's. Had to keep the decibels down so as not to disturb the pilings. Saw them again in DC in the mid 90's. Unparalleled experience.

Hinton is a great place. Even if opinions differ. Be a boring world if we all agreed on everything. Opinions are like a**holes, we all have them, and they all stink.

[Mountaineer1863]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

Not purportedly, they are actually authored by me.

Peoples opinions aren't invalid. To her, they are valid. I disagree with them.


Homophobia? No. Strong dislike for having their lifestyle imposed upon me or my family. Yes


Then you oppose Hate Crimes. EQUAL protection means it's no worse of a crime based on the sexual orientation of the victim.


There is no equal in the music world. I saw them in a floating concert in Venice back in the late 80's. Had to keep the decibels down so as not to disturb the pilings. Saw them again in DC in the mid 90's. Unparalleled experience.

Hinton is a great place. Even if opinions differ. Be a boring world if we all agreed on everything. Opinions are like a**holes, we all have them, and they all stink.

Actually, I didnt find very much in the way of opinion proffered by MillersAngel- it seemed to me that most of what was posted was factual documentation. I guess that in all my years of living in WVa, with approximately 35 years living and working either in the States, or overseas, I have never experienced any gay try to impose their lifestyle on me. If anything, it seemed to me to be almost the opposite. That is my lifes experience. I believe all crimes of violence against fellow humans are deplorable and should be punished as appropriate. However if you intentionally harm someone just because they are different, and for no other reason , I believe that exacerbates the crime.

Without question Pink Floyd provided the greatest "rock" experience ever. Your expression of "unparalleled experience" explains it exactly.