Gay Rights in West Virginia (living, club, money)

[GottaHerdOn]

Originally Posted by corgis

Would you two please take your anger somewhere else? I feel offended by both of you and I'm just an old lady trying to help people learn about West Virginia. I am offended by the teacher statements, my son is a very popular high school band director in WV and I'm offended by both of you slinging verbal potshots at each other, it's getting ugly in here now and it needs to stop!!

Corgis, I am sorry I have offended you. But you see I myself have been offended and so I'm taking up for myself. Sorry you chose to read this thread repeatedly and witness our heated discussion. I'm sure your not alone in your thoughts, and I'm sure that people who are indifferent to this topic or are bothered by the discussion have ignored this thread. Which in fact is an old thread that someone revived at some point to slur gays, in which I became confrontational, which I don't and will not apologize for.

[Hinton Bound]

Originally Posted by GottaHerdOn

Corgis, I am sorry I have offended you. But you see I myself have been offended and so I'm taking up for myself. Sorry you chose to read this thread repeatedly and witness our heated discussion. I'm sure your not alone in your thoughts, and I'm sure that people who are indifferent to this topic or are bothered by the discussion have ignored this thread. Which in fact is an old thread that someone revived at some point to slur gays, in which I became confrontational, which I don't and will not apologize for.

Never apologize for fighting for what you feel is yours to fight for. What was that thing we said as kids" Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words can never hurt me".


We live to fight another day.

[Janipoo]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

Never apologize for fighting for what you feel is yours to fight for. What was that thing we said as kids" Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words can never hurt me".


We live to fight another day.

OMG , we found the middle ground . West Virginia is great! Fight...Fight...Fight...but don't try to put a label on it end the day we are all neighbors and will sit down and have a beer at the end of the fight.........whatever.........isn't the countryside beautiful .

Actually, I was enjoying hearing both sides.

[harborlady]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

I don't care if it's WV, NY, or BFE. My opinions stay the same.

The root cause of lack of legit debate. When your opinions are fixed/ rigid, you are in as much declaring yourself omnipotent ending any pretense of discussion.

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

There is no hatred from me. I would sit with anyone here and enjoy a coffee and conversation.

Your characterizations contradict. Enjoyable conversations are very subjective, and have the qualifier of being mutual.

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

I doesn't matter where we're from.

Start a new thread about transplants and cultural adjustments. I've got a feeling you'll find out otherwise.
When in rome scenario. When you stubbornly insist wearing shoes in a Japanese home don't act surprised when you aren't invited indoors.

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

Anyone who lacks the fortitude to stand and fight for what they believe is right, is a coward. I have no respect for them. None. It is far better to fight and lose, than not to fight at all.

Take an interest in what others consider respectful you might have different results.

Fight you or you'll lose respect for me? I'm sure I've enough self respect to muddle through without it somehow. No deal.

The point of fighting with someone swinging at the air? We've established that everyone else's input is completely irrelevant (except those who agree with you). Want a soapbox? This thread is all about you, right? I need only step aside and witness the depths you'll drag yourself on your own steam. When in doubt, dig deeper, faster, and be sure to shoot the messenger. No problemo, I've got my kevlar wonder woman girdle on.

[Hinton Bound]

Originally Posted by harborlady

... When your opinions are fixed/ rigid, you are in as much declaring yourself omnipotent ending any pretense of discussion.

Any person entering debate, thinking they may be wrong, is certain to lose that fight. If you have no confidence in your argument, best you keep it to yourself.

Originally Posted by harborlady

... Your characterizations contradict. Enjoyable conversations are very subjective, and have the qualifier of being mutual.

If we are sitting for coffee, and you bring up gay rights in WV, you suggest I say nothing? If it is brought up, it is fair game for comment. Herd enterd his thoughts into the public domain. If you don't want to talk about a subject, don't bring it up.

Originally Posted by harborlady

Start a new thread about transplants and cultural adjustments. I've got a feeling you'll find out otherwise.
When in rome scenario. When you stubbornly insist wearing shoes in a Japanese home don't act surprised when you aren't invited indoors.

You're mixing customs with opinions. I've lived abroad for many years, including 5 in the Middle East. I can adapt to anyones "custom", as I'm in their environment. I expect the same when they visit me. I do not force my life style onto anyone. I demand the same in return.

Originally Posted by harborlady

The point of fighting with someone swinging at the air? We've established that everyone else's input is completely irrelevant (except those who agree with you). Want a soapbox? This thread is all about you, right? I need only step aside and witness the depths you'll drag yourself on your own steam. When in doubt, dig deeper, faster, and be sure to shoot the messenger. No problemo, I've got my kevlar wonder woman girdle on.

If you don't have an opinion on the subject, stay out of the discussion. Easy enough? This forum is everyones soapbox. You don't like what I'm saying? Don't read it.
As with all your previous posts, you've said nothing about your stance on this issue. You've simply stood on the side lines, blowing your chaff. You fill the page with words, but say nothing. Surprised you don't work for a politician.

[harborlady]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

Any person entering debate, thinking they may be wrong, is certain to lose that fight. If you have no confidence in your argument, best you keep it to yourself.

If we are sitting for coffee, and you bring up gay rights in WV, you suggest I say nothing? If it is brought up, it is fair game for comment. Herd enterd his thoughts into the public domain. If you don't want to talk about a subject, don't bring it up.

You're mixing customs with opinions. I've lived abroad for many years, including 5 in the Middle East. I can adapt to anyones "custom", as I'm in their environment. I expect the same when they visit me. I do not force my life style onto anyone. I demand the same in return.

If you don't have an opinion on the subject, stay out of the discussion. Easy enough? This forum is everyones soapbox. You don't like what I'm saying? Don't read it.
As with all your previous posts, you've said nothing about your stance on this issue. You've simply stood on the side lines, blowing your chaff. You fill the page with words, but say nothing. Surprised you don't work for a politician.

Third time, as blunt, monosyllabic and brief as possible;

There is no discussion. It's all about you.

[Hinton Bound]

Too bad for you Herd, gay rights in WV are all about me. Hope you packed well for Poland!

[GottaHerdOn]

Oh Hinton haven't you learned? Everything is always about me! ha ha I packed enough for Poland but currently the exchange rate is amazing so I'm just being a little American consumer over here buying everything ha ha. Oh and the Vodka is amazing, and "real" beer!!! Its much more toxic than the beer in the states. After one of our heated discussions and we're sitting on that hypothetical porch people have mentioned I'll bring some. ha ha

[Hinton Bound]

Originally Posted by GottaHerdOn

Oh Hinton haven't you learned? Everything is always about me! ha ha I packed enough for Poland but currently the exchange rate is amazing so I'm just being a little American consumer over here buying everything ha ha. Oh and the Vodka is amazing, and "real" beer!!! Its much more toxic than the beer in the states. After one of our heated discussions and we're sitting on that hypothetical porch people have mentioned I'll bring some. ha ha

Enjoy! There are many topics aside from this one to waste our day with. I can always use another "immune" poison ivy puller.

[harborlady]

Originally Posted by GottaHerdOn

the Vodka is amazing, and "real" beer!!! Its much more toxic than the beer in the states.

I was offered a 'natty lite' beer a few days ago. It made me higher than double shots of tequilla. What the heck is in it, formaldehyde & anti freeze?

Have fun!


(but try to behave!) LOL