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Old 02-26-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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If there is no room for current road expansion in Morgantown, then how is there room to build new roads, such as a direct connecter to the interstate or a loop that was mentioned?

Also, if the current road congestion can't be fixed due to no room for road expansion, then wouldn't the traffic congestion issue continue even if a new loop road or interstate connector is built? It would seem that on the new road, the traffic will be better but that the current congestion problems will continue where it already exists.

 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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Lets look at travel times/mileage in SWV via Apple maps:

Williamson to Bluefield via US 52: 98 miles @ 2 hours, 46 minutes.
Welch to Bluefield via US 52: 33.4 miles @ 1 hour, 5 minutes.
Beckley to Bradshaw via WV 16: 77 miles @ 2 hours, 8 minutes.

These times are on two lane roads across some of the worst terrain in the state, across some of the most dangerous stretches of highway in the state. How could any type of investment be made in these areas when it takes so long to travel to and from? As a matter of fact, when has any investment by the State been made here at all?

Travel times around Morgantown via Apple Maps:

Star City to Central Morgantown: 3.2 miles @ 10 min.
Star City to I-68/WV 43-Mon-Fayette Expressway interchange:11.5 miles @27 minutes.

Morgantown is served by I-79,I-68, Mon-Fayette Expressway, US 119, US 19, WV 705, etc.
Your highway needs are taken care of, you can travel across safe highways in your area. Other than a few improvements here and there, maybe some traffic issues, your ok.
You can go those places in that amount of time in Morgantown, at 3am. There is no way you could do it in anything approaching 3 times that amount of time from 6:30am to 10:30pm. The expressways surrounding our town really aren't the problem. The state highways traversing it are a major problem. And, it does take an hour to get from Welch to Bluefield. Fortunately, there are few people living in Welch to make the trip.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have those wonderful expressways to nowhere. It is just that there are maybe a thousand things that should have priority over them.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 08:00 AM
 
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If there is no room for current road expansion in Morgantown, then how is there room to build new roads, such as a direct connecter to the interstate or a loop that was mentioned?

Also, if the current road congestion can't be fixed due to no room for road expansion, then wouldn't the traffic congestion issue continue even if a new loop road or interstate connector is built? It would seem that on the new road, the traffic will be better but that the current congestion problems will continue where it already exists.
There is mostly room and the few areas there isn't eminent domain.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 09:12 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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If there is no room for current road expansion in Morgantown, then how is there room to build new roads, such as a direct connecter to the interstate or a loop that was mentioned?

Also, if the current road congestion can't be fixed due to no room for road expansion, then wouldn't the traffic congestion issue continue even if a new loop road or interstate connector is built? It would seem that on the new road, the traffic will be better but that the current congestion problems will continue where it already exists.
Is it just me, or do others think it's a little odd to see so many posts about Morgantown roads in a thread about the King Coas Highway and the Coalfields Expressway, both quite a distance from Morgantown?
 
Old 02-26-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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Is it just me, or do others think it's a little odd to see so many posts about Morgantown roads in a thread about the King Coas Highway and the Coalfields Expressway, both quite a distance from Morgantown?
Not really.

It is all related to state highway spending.

However, Morgantown is being talked about too much. The message is this interstate is a huge waste and not needed while interstates are needed in other parts of the state, Morgantown being a place where infrastructure is needed. It is not the only place e that needs infrastructure, other parts of Northern WV and EP do too. Focus mainly on how middle of nowhere no hope for the future SWV does not need anything.

Curse did kinda hijack the thread when he started talking about Morgantown, although it is somewhat related.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: WV/Va/Ky/Tn
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You can go those places in that amount of time in Morgantown, at 3am. There is no way you could do it in anything approaching 3 times that amount of time from 6:30am to 10:30pm. The expressways surrounding our town really aren't the problem. The state highways traversing it are a major problem. And, it does take an hour to get from Welch to Bluefield. Fortunately, there are few people living in Welch to make the trip.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have those wonderful expressways to nowhere. It is just that there are maybe a thousand things that should have priority over them.
There are a lot of people that have to make that drive daily. People commute to Bluefield for work, college, and also for the Medical Services, Dr's, etc. Their are coal trucks, slow drivers, traffic, and speed traps you have to contend with. This is a Top Priority project with millions already spent. These Highways are for the Economic Develpoment and Safe Transportation needs of WV and Va.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: WV/Va/Ky/Tn
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Not really.

It is all related to state highway spending.

However, Morgantown is being talked about too much. The message is this interstate is a huge waste and not needed while interstates are needed in other parts of the state, Morgantown being a place where infrastructure is needed. It is not the only place e that needs infrastructure, other parts of Northern WV and EP do too. Focus mainly on how middle of nowhere no hope for the future SWV does not need anything.

Curse did kinda hijack the thread when he started talking about Morgantown, although it is somewhat related.
The article that started this thread was based in the State of Virginia, although it is somewhat related to WV.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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The article that started this thread was based in the State of Virginia, although it is somewhat related to WV.
The point is the highway is stupid, not needed, and wasteful from WV to VA. If VA wants to pay for the WV highway then I will support this project.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 10:27 AM
 
Location: WV/Va/Ky/Tn
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The point is the highway is stupid, not needed, and wasteful from WV to VA. If VA wants to pay for the WV highway then I will support this project.
The point is the highway is important, needed, and economical from WV to VA. If coal companies want to assist in removing the coal and leaving a at grade highway bed for the State or Federal Government to pave over at less than double the cost to taxpayers then I will support it.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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The point is the highway is important, needed, and economical from WV to VA. If coal companies want to assist in removing the coal and leaving a at grade highway bed for the State or Federal Government to pave over at less than double the cost to taxpayers then I will support it.
No. It is not needed. It is a huge scam to benefit coal companies. It won't help your area other than a few minimum wage service jobs. The road is infamous nationwide for not being needed. You just want a pork handout.

Let the coal companies pay for their own road. It is for their benefit they should pay to build and maintain it. If the few residents who still live in this part of WV want it they can pitch in with the coal companies.
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