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Old 10-02-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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Somebody pays for those "credits" that go to foreign countries to use at special interest companies.

Most of it does not go back to the American people. Most of it has our grandchildren in debt paying for it. And, foreign aid is billions of dollars per year. We are not responsible for the rest of the world. We can no longer even take care of our own because the inbred super rich elitists have essentially destroyed our middle class. They have liberals convinced it is good because it is somehow "fair", what ever that means. It sure is not fair to my grandson. They have conservatives convinced it is good because it is "open" and "free". But it sure in not free for those who have to pay for it when we can not even afford to provide adequate support for our own college students or pave our own roads. Those billions would go a long way toward accomplishing that.

It is getting worse all the time. Every year ordinary folks take another hit. When I went to college, tuition was $113 per semester at WVU, our state's best college. That is because the state and federal government provided major support for college tuition. Now that they are sending billions all over the world and acting like they can govern half the planet with our money, many of our citizens leave college owing the equivalent of a house payment.
The debt is not caused by foreign aid. Maybe around 1% of it is but 99% is not.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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The debt is not caused by foreign aid. Maybe around 1% of it is but 99% is not.
Havoc, the amount of foreign aid the morons governing us fork over, that does absolutely nothing for the American people, would fund several major universities every year. It would replace every bridge in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. And, it would insure that our students get a quality, affordable education. We get zip... nada out of paving roads in Afghanistan. They don't even like us for doing it. It doesn't benefit anybody but the special interests to hand out multi million dollar jet fighters to Isreal like they were candy. In fact, there is a pretty good chance those folks will try to reverse engineer whatever we give them then sell the technology to China or some other potential adversary. It is not our responsibility to support Africa, or any other place on earth. If there are people who want to do that, they need to do it with their own money instead of making everyone else foot the bill. We have our own problems to deal with here, and nobody ever, any place else, came here to help us do it. Charity begins at home.
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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Havoc, the amount of foreign aid the morons governing us fork over, that does absolutely nothing for the American people, would fund several major universities every year. It would replace every bridge in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. And, it would insure that our students get a quality, affordable education. We get zip... nada out of paving roads in Afghanistan. They don't even like us for doing it. It doesn't benefit anybody but the special interests to hand out multi million dollar jet fighters to Isreal like they were candy. In fact, there is a pretty good chance those folks will try to reverse engineer whatever we give them then sell the technology to China or some other potential adversary. It is not our responsibility to support Africa, or any other place on earth. If there are people who want to do that, they need to do it with their own money instead of making everyone else foot the bill. We have our own problems to deal with here, and nobody ever, any place else, came here to help us do it. Charity begins at home.
I agree but we have the money for charity at home and helping other people. All those things you mentioned we could have, all the while being a force of hope and help for billions. This could be done without going into debt either. It would just take competent leaders to do this.

CT we always had money for these things. It is outrage we dont get them, but it is not due to foreign aid, but politicians who ideologically dont believe government money should go to benefit the people of our great country. Personally I disagree. Instead of paying their private companies billions to do nothing or giving subsidies to huge corporations where all the money goes to a few stockholders I feel we should improve education, infrastructure, and social benefits.

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Old 10-05-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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We wouldn't be having the problems we are having today if we made those running government programs be held accountable for the waste and fraud in their programs.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:58 PM
 
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If it was going to help those in other countries it would be different. It's going to buy arms.

How much money does the U.S. spend on foreign? "Very little," I wrote back in October.

But some readers rightly critized that characterization of U.S. foreign aid spending. Indeed, while foreign aid is well under 1 percent of the total U.S. federal budget, it's still counted in the multiple tens of billions of dollars – around $23 billion this year, or a total of $37 billion if you include assistance to foreign militaries. And that, of course, is a lot of money.


How Much Foreign Aid Does the U.S. Give Away?

It's hard to tell what is being spent that we don't know about also. Like the arms running out of the Libyan embassy. Then you have to add what we spend on the military to counter those we gave the arms to in the first place. So we arm then and then send our soldiers over to fight them.

I've been asking for a very long time for someone to explain the logic to me.
There is absolutely no logic to it, and I am a conservative. We arm these bozos and they fight each other with the weapons, then call on us to clean up the mess. The Middle East is in permanent hate lock. It doesn't matter what we do, they are going to blow each other up in time. It is in our best interests to just completely stay out of it. Taking anybody's side does not benefit us in the slightest, and it only gives one side or the other somebody else to hate. We need to pull totally out of the Middle East as soon as possible and leave them to sort out their own, largely self created, problems.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:23 AM
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WV bridges. Not govt lockdown. not foreign aid. not the middle east.
WV bridges - that's the topic of this thread, please stick to it.
We also have a separate politics forum for all the above mentioned topics.
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