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Old 06-11-2014, 10:47 AM
 
Location: EPWV
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Bonefish Grill is pretty high-end compared to places like Red Lobster, so they probably only go into high-income areas.

Bahama Breeze is another neat Darden restaurant that I'll probably never see in the region in my lifetime.
Bonefish Grill and Bahama Breeze, huh? Hmm.. I don't think I had ever been to any in my travels. Altho Bonefish Grill does sound a little more familiar. Checked Google - looks more like we have a better chance to visit the Bonefish in Frederick, Md - maybe this coming weekend. Although the coconut pineapple dessert at Bahama's sounds like a winner to me. Thanks for the info. See, Martinsburg just lost out on at least 50 dollars.

Yes, I had heard this principle of 'this area is not considered "high income" applied when thinking of putting in the fancier version' of say, a Food Lion. Can't think of the exact name right now but I think it had the word "Bloom" in it? Better Google. Yes, Bloom was the upscaled version of Food Lion. I suppose they could have really done us in with a Bottom Dollar, as if there weren't enough of those dollar type stores in our area already. Anyways, that's what I was told some time ago.

Wish I could just tell them to take the chance
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: In the woods
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Bonefish Grill and Bahama Breeze, huh? Hmm.. I don't think I had ever been to any in my travels. Altho Bonefish Grill does sound a little more familiar. Checked Google - looks more like we have a better chance to visit the Bonefish in Frederick, Md - maybe this coming weekend. Although the coconut pineapple dessert at Bahama's sounds like a winner to me. Thanks for the info. See, Martinsburg just lost out on at least 50 dollars.

. . .Wish I could just tell them to take the chance
Maybe they'll read this forum, take the siggestion, and build them for us?

If there were a Bahama Breeze in Martinsburg right now I would drive there for dinner tonight.
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Martinsburg, West Virginia
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Not to be a downer, but I found this interesting. According to Bahama Breeze's (Darden) site criteria, they require 30,000 ADT (how many vehicles will pass the restaurant per day). I-81 through Martinsburg has an ADT of around 60,000 (according to a recent traffic study completed for the Weis shopping center project) not including how many would pass on Foxcroft/Mall Drive so I feel we would definitely meet their needs there! However, there are other criteria such as population and a few psychographics that make me slightly uncertain this could happen. But maybe they could stretch a little and negotiate if they know this how this area is and will hopefully continue to grow. Then again, numbers don't lie. Below is the link for Bahama Breeze's site criteria. You can find these for almost any restaurant. I find it really interesting how they formulate these. -mmccul

https://www.darden.com/pdf/about/Bah...chure_2010.pdf

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Old 06-11-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Martinsburg, West Virginia
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This is a good idea for the mall. I have always like malls that have outdoor amenities along with indoor amenities. There is a mall near me in Albany that has accomplished something similar to this, and it has turned out nicely. It still has an indoor mall with some stores, a movie theater, and a hotel. The outside has lots more including some good restaurants. The mall is by no means upscale, but has provided a goo setting for typical mall stores to thrive.

Clifton Park Center
I really like this format and have seen several places like Clifton Park that are highly accessible and refreshing, therefore successful. It would be great if Martinsburg Mall could transform into something like this. I also think it would be a really good idea once all of the rebuilding and possible renovations are complete (assuming there is actually more renovation and growth planned) for the owners to rebrand the mall. They should drop the word "mall" and give it a new and refreshing name, perhaps The Shops at Foxcroft? Or The Center at Foxcroft? Yes, the saying is true "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig", but I feel it would actually benefit the owners and businesses. Again, this is all assuming the rest of the mall will eventually be renovated and businesses will actually start filling it. -mmccul
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: 304
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I really like this format and have seen several places like Clifton Park that are highly accessible and refreshing, therefore successful. It would be great if Martinsburg Mall could transform into something like this. I also think it would be a really good idea once all of the rebuilding and possible renovations are complete (assuming there is actually more renovation and growth planned) for the owners to rebrand the mall. They should drop the word "mall" and give it a new and refreshing name, perhaps The Shops at Foxcroft? Or The Center at Foxcroft? Yes, the saying is true "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig", but I feel it would actually benefit the owners and businesses. Again, this is all assuming the rest of the mall will eventually be renovated and businesses will actually start filling it. -mmccul
I agree with the rebrand idea! The organization I am with is currently re-branding a lot of what we offer in order to refreshing our appeal.

I also forgot about an example of mall redevelopment back at home in WV. The former Kanawha Mall (Now Shops at Kanawha) turned most of its indoor space into a strip mall and it has worked out tremendously. It took a few years for them to find some tenants, but now the place is filling up fast with talks of building more retail and out-parcel restaurants. The remaining indoor part is mostly office space for the DMV.

To comment on some of the other things mention, I think Panera Bread is a need for Martinsburg. That area could easily support one, with the one in Ranson also covering the general area. I don't know if a restaurant like Bonefish of Bahama Breeze would work because of the lack of population in the immediate area and too many larger dining and shopping districts relatively close. Something that should work out well might be a Cheddar's, Chili's, or maybe a Pie's and Pints!

I was in Martinsburg back in mid May and noticed some new stuff since my last visit (probably spring of last year). I really enjoy that part of the state and the success it has seen. I just hope it doesn't become too suburban and lose the WV charm.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Charles Town, WV
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If I was allowed to choose new restaurants in the area, I would probably pick the following: BBQ joint (best I have found in the area is in Hagerstown or Frederick), a brewpub (Mountain State Brewing Co or Pies N Pints would be cool), Quaker Steak n Lube, or a Cheddars.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Martinsburg, West Virginia
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If I was allowed to choose new restaurants in the area, I would probably pick the following: BBQ joint (best I have found in the area is in Hagerstown or Frederick), a brewpub (Mountain State Brewing Co or Pies N Pints would be cool), Quaker Steak n Lube, or a Cheddars.
I love Cheddars, and I have always thought one would be great in the Martinsburg area.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:47 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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There is a B Wings in the strip mall above the Mall on Foxcroft! Don't thing we need 2 that close LOL
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Charles Town, WV
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There is a B Wings in the strip mall above the Mall on Foxcroft! Don't thing we need 2 that close LOL
You're right. They should burn bdubs down to make room lol.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Kearneysville,WV
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What about a cheesecake factory! or Red Robin... Cheesecake factory would bring a more "upper end" feel.
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