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05-29-2008, 08:10 PM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by David Kennedy
While never belonging to the Masons, many friends and relatives have...I passed up the opportunity twice...both times wanting to give all of my free time to my family...as a young Marine eons ago, a friend from Zanesville and myself would dress in our Blues and visit the kids at the Masonic Hospital in San Francisco...was the best of liberty...the masons will always get my vote for the good things they do...
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Word has it that a direct ancestor of mine in the Charleston area was a Mason.
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05-30-2008, 08:49 AM
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Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!
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The KKK birthed the broader group of white supremists. The white supremists do not hide their opinions nor their identities and believe themselves to be one with God. Not far from the radical muslims who believe all Americans are infidels or unholy.
Regardless of titles or location, it is all rolled into one truth - hate criminals. It's all about people who think the world was made for them and them alone. They believe they are doing the work of God - same as the radical Muslims. It's the mentality that the law is hard pressed to overcome.
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05-30-2008, 11:49 AM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Originally Posted by AliceT
The KKK birthed the broader group of white supremists. The white supremists do not hide their opinions nor their identities and believe themselves to be one with God. Not far from the radical muslims who believe all Americans are infidels or unholy.
Regardless of titles or location, it is all rolled into one truth - hate criminals. It's all about people who think the world was made for them and them alone. They believe they are doing the work of God - same as the radical Muslims. It's the mentality that the law is hard pressed to overcome.
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And one could add in the Black Panthers as well the 'Brown pride' advocates like MEChA.
They are all brothers and sisters in their basic ideology-------once past the skin color. 
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05-30-2008, 03:51 PM
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AliceT:
A social comparison:
Muslim idealogy almost unchanged in 1200 years...only a few distinct factions...
European Christian idealogy...splintering of the main Roman Catholic group...multi splintering of the Protestant grouping into hundreds of sub-groups.
Differences:
Incredible intelligence of Muslim engineering, mathematics and civilization...given only to a few of the ruling families...not to the masses.
Printing Press began the transformation of ideas and thought for the European Group, the masses take by force and martyrdom the information technology of their age...
In those other times, the hate crimes were committed by the catholic church and the cavalry troops of Salidin....both for the preservation of the pure religion...one Muslim and the other 'the true church...
both done for the same reasons...money and control...as it is in todays world...money...and control.
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05-30-2008, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AliceT
The KKK birthed the broader group of white supremists. The white supremists do not hide their opinions nor their identities and believe themselves to be one with God. Not far from the radical muslims who believe all Americans are infidels or unholy.
Regardless of titles or location, it is all rolled into one truth - hate criminals. It's all about people who think the world was made for them and them alone. They believe they are doing the work of God - same as the radical Muslims. It's the mentality that the law is hard pressed to overcome.
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Somehow the media is not interested in putting a microphone in your face, huh aliceT? ^5 to you, and smack upside the head for the infomercial news media 'playing cards' for more sensationalist garbage at a time when we most desperately need truth to prevail. They prey upon insecurities just like this administration and commodities market does.
True journalism needs to be revived.
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05-30-2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by David Kennedy
AliceT:
A social comparison:
Muslim idealogy almost unchanged in 1200 years...only a few distinct factions...
European Christian idealogy...splintering of the main Roman Catholic group...multi splintering of the Protestant grouping into hundreds of sub-groups.
Differences:
Incredible intelligence of Muslim engineering, mathematics and civilization...given only to a few of the ruling families...not to the masses.
Printing Press began the transformation of ideas and thought for the European Group, the masses take by force and martyrdom the information technology of their age...
In those other times, the hate crimes were committed by the catholic church and the cavalry troops of Salidin....both for the preservation of the pure religion...one Muslim and the other 'the true church...
both done for the same reasons...money and control...as it is in todays world...money...and control.
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DK IMO the moment people come together to organize power, if not correctly geared philosophically to the greater cause, you see power struggles at every level no matter the organization. PTA meetings all the way to the top, and across spanses of history.
Once that machiavellian line is crossed, justifying ANYTHING, it perverts the real cause, and hastens decay. When leadership is not in service to its own self preservation and commits themselves to the original purpose, it's a more durable arrangement. Feet and heart and brain all going in one direction consistently.
People convinced that undermining democracy is somehow helping it- I think that's hurt us more than what anyone outside could do to america. Same way that abortion clinic bombers hiding behind a catholic banner have hurt catholicism, or crusades force feeding jesus sponsored by kill thy neighbor and covet their property. Despite my disagreement with papacy on many issues, I'm glad they took their religion back by unequivocally denouncing that nonsense.
Extremist zealots ultimately serve only themselves. Same with poor leaders oblivious to the sanctity of proper stewardship.
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05-31-2008, 04:38 AM
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Harborlady: How right you are...its about total power corrupting totally...
Something of a revolt in the American Catholic Church is the creation of a new university called Ave Maria University near Naples, Florida. An entire new city is being built around it to the tune of 400 million dollars.
Funded primarily by Domino's Pizza owner Thomas Monaghan..seeing the social collapse caused by the problems of sexual mis-conduct of the priesthood, Mr. Monahagh decided to do something about it.
His intentions are to create a Universtiy with about 50,000 catholic students...fill the church with the staff they need from a very moral, family oriented social climate.
The school and university is pattered after the LDS city of Provo, Utah and their school, Brigham Young University...
Monahan said in a recent interview that he had owned a ball team and owned big homes and cars but none of it gave him any satisfaction...he wanted to do something with the money...which is in the billions..
He is willing to give it all away to help his faith...this is an example of the sanctity of a proper stewardship in my opinion.
The stoic nature of the church has been its great handicap...as it moves forward, it will give its people the strength they need...my Catholic friends are my best friends...as are my Jewish friends, Hindu's, Muslims, Methodists, Mormons, Baptists...ect...takes everybody.
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06-01-2008, 10:15 PM
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Ditto MsShona
You are so right.
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09-02-2008, 09:27 PM
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Let's not forget about the term W.O.P. for Italians, which meant without papers. so, not all immigration in the past was legal.
The Klan started in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee and it was to stop the progressive movement of the carpetbaggers and so on. Here's some information on the Klan: Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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09-02-2008, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
Let's not forget about the term W.O.P. for Italians, which meant without papers. so, not all immigration in the past was legal.
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Whoever is in the State of West Virginia, better be legally in this country in the present.
For reporting illegal aliens (or those aiding and abetting, trafickking, etc.) call :
Immigration and Customs Enforcement
866-347-2423
Office of Detention and Removal Operations Offices
Thomas R. Decker, Field Office Director
1600 Callowhill St., 5th Floor
Philadelphia, PA 19130
Phone: 215-656-7164
Area of Responsibility: Delaware, Pennsylvania, West Virginia
Also,
contact your local Sheriff's Office (and/or local municipality, city council, police departments, etc.) to participate in Section 287(g), which allows local law enforcement to arrest illegal aliens.
ICE ACCESS Request for Information
Section 287(g) Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 287(g) originated in the 1996 amendments to the Immigration and Nationality Act passed by Congress. The initiative is designed to effectively multiply the forces of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) through enhanced cooperation and communication with state and local law enforcement. Under 287(g), ICE provides state and local law enforcement with the training and subsequent authorization to identify, process, and when appropriate, detain immigration offenders they encounter during their regular, daily law-enforcement activity.
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA), effective September 30, 1996, added Section 287(g), performance of immigration officer functions by state officers and employees, to the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). This authorizes the secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to enter into agreements with state and local law enforcement agencies, permitting designated officers to perform immigration law enforcement functions, pursuant to a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA), provided that the local law enforcement officers receive appropriate training and function under the supervision of sworn U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers.
The cross-designation between ICE and state and local patrol officers, detectives, investigators and correctional officers working in conjunction with ICE allows these local and state officers: necessary resources and latitude to pursue investigations relating to violent crimes, human smuggling, gang/organized crime activity, sexual-related offenses, narcotics smuggling and money laundering; and increased resources and support in more remote geographical locations.
Also,
if you are aware of tax fraud being committed by an employer of illegal aliens (i.e., construction company hiring them as subcontractors instead of employees), the IRS offers a reward at it's discretion for such information.
IRS Begins Work on Whistleblower Office; Whitlock Named First Director
How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?
Contact My Local Office in West Virginia
800-829-1040
Also,
if you are aware of illegal aliens who have committed identity theft, or employer's who are in conspiracy with illegal aliens to commit identity theft, you can report them to :
Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Identity Theft Hotline
877-438-4338
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