WV being bashed on CNN.com by Obama fans (high crime, bankrupt)

[silace]

ALL politicians are the same. The party doesn't matter. You can't believe one word that comes out of there mouth.

[AnthonySA]

West Virginia, you should be proud of yourselves for getting out there and voting for who YOU think should get the nomination for the Democratic Party. Despite what the pundits and trends showed, you made your voice loud and clear that you all are independent minded and that the democratic process needs to continue on it's natural course without calling for premature ends to a Presidential Race.

Regardless to which candidate is popular nationally, voting for who you think is best suited for the job definitely deserves a pat on the back. Those who condemned your vote based on "ignorance" may need enlightenment themselves.

[David Kennedy]

Appliachaingirl:

To answer your question: They were much healthier 100 years ago in this country because of the natural freshness of the foods...Canning of foods began with the Civil War. Refrigeration in 1880...by 1908 food sources were very good.
The succeeding generation have benefited from better health care and vaccinations.
The repression/ irradication of several diseases have overrode any small differences....but....and their is always a but...there is a case for your premise...and I mention this very begrudgenly...and only as an answer to your question...but a group had become unhealthy both mentally and physcially during this time period, and that was several ghetto groups of Jews in Europe...after centurys of inner breeding, they had began to diminish in several characteristics...and this was a genetic situation of not having new genes brought into the pool.
After all they have suffered, I'm sorry to use this example to verify your question, but it is a true fact.

The 'red hair of the Irish and Scots is another...but existed with the Norwegian invaders of the 9th century too.
Most of the new genetic material brought into Europe was done so by Asian invaders...killing the men and raping the women...It was an expected practice with invasion.
Those tribes who revolted against that practice vehemently were those of Celtic persuasion, as the women went into battle with the men and fought (naked) to the last soul in some of their battles.

[harborlady]

Dk I think the group you are talking about are the hassidic orthodox jews. They kind of dress like amish and are very strict about their faith. Big community in brooklyn. They're so extreme that they will disown their children who disobey & marry outside of the faith. Not all jewish faiths are as rigid.
Genetic science gained huge advances when medical science started noticing something going on in family trees because orthodox jews were such meticulous record keepers of their family trees going back as far as paper would last I suppose lol. They started seeing how some diseases skipped generations, or would plague a lineage etc. I'm unclear as to whether the rabbis have since changed their policies in advent of genetic sciences. I know unorthodox jews aren't as strict, encourage people to marry within their faith, but conversion is acceptable in many cases I've seen. There appears to be some social stigma among them when it's the woman who converts. I guess its safe to attribute the reasons misshona stated about women in the faith having a larger burden.

There is also something of a whole other lineage in mitochondrial dna passed down through mothers, quite a fascination in light of patriarchal social structures imposed through social orders, but a silent order of heritage from mamma that defies whatever those fleeting elements might say. The origin of 'she's the boss'? lol That's more clearly mapped out in pacyderm species of african, asian, and indian elephants. I digress...

Genetic proclivity among asian folks is lactose intolerance (missing a digestive enzyme so you can eat dairy products), and among blacks sickle cell enemia. Odd thing about that sickle cell- having that gene makes you less likely to get malaria. They believe its a genetic adaptation to a region. It manifests itself as unhealthy when both parents have the gene, the trait becomes too exagerated, then it manifests as the disease sickle cell enemia.

Same with jews, should blacks be strict about staying with their own race, they would be risking the genetic health of their children. I think europeans don't have as many exagerated examples because the borders were so loose. The english are traditionally known for having poor dentition. Anectdotally I've heard irish tend to have weaker kidneys, german descent tend to have more cases of excema and migraines, polish sinus problems and french cases of gout were higher among those declaring said nationality. These studies weren't conclusive though because the statistic data base was small and mixed. When it comes to diseases, it's harder to attribute what's genetic cause and what's environmental/nutritional/cultural practice, especially when borders are open.

That's part of why they want to map human DNA better to see how traits manifest in which areas of the strand (especially amongst us american mutts). They're believing that they can do something called genetic splicing (swapping out bad code for good) to treat or prevent diseases. This stuff amazes me to no end, even if I'll never be a rocket scientist.

Another irony is select christian groups who insist on genetic purity of a white race, when they're in the belief that ALL of our parents originate with adam and eve. I see that as an unwillingness to admit we're all gods children, contrary to, or in defiance of, the very bible they profess to believe.

[David Kennedy]

40,000 years ago, my Irish ancestors came out of Africa...

thanks for that excellent post..and my example was hasidic jews.

[karma_13612]

Originally Posted by Bobilee

Here's an interesting article from the Wall St. Journal about how Obama has manipulated DNC rules to gain the delegate edge. Obama's Strategy for Low-Turnout Caucuses Helps Drive Delegate Edge - WSJ.com

Is it possible "manipulate' might be a bit strong? He is running a campaign based on delegates being the deciding factor. I respectfully submit that he is just running a very good campaign as opposed to any underhanded methods implied by 'manipulation'.

don't mean any harm, just setting the record straight.

[harborlady]

Originally Posted by karma_13612

Is it possible "manipulate' might be a bit strong? He is running a campaign based on delegates being the deciding factor. I respectfully submit that he is just running a very good campaign as opposed to any underhanded methods implied by 'manipulation'.

don't mean any harm, just setting the record straight.

You bring up a valid point, worthy of an entirely new thread IMO. Politicians by their very nature are SUPPOSED to persuade, cajole, compromise... what way we may characterize it speaks of how we feel on his direction relative to where we personally (or a media entity) want to go.
WSJ is saying manipulate, and it's repeating the basis for clintons disagreement in a headline. Obama camp would say he's a excellent strategist because he saw an angle in the system and won by the rules in effect (aka lawyering on a macro scale).
Both are true in politics. Popular vote is the best way to assure cooperation with a plan, and the average voter is more inspired to participate with their vote in the primary method. BUT a skilled politician has to use guile at times, assess a situation for its complete reality, and get from point a to point z by the means available to fulfill an objective. (ends justify means machiavellian approach. Did I unfairly characterize obama, or can it be spun another way to sound more palitable to the masses?) Two different muscles are being exercised. Which will prevail? The plot thickens!

[harborlady]

new thread posted

[ginamarie88]

They don't deserve a massage and i hope they get the Message!!lollllll

[appalachiangirl]

CNN's not THAT liberal. MSNBC is more liberal ,I'd say.