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Old 01-13-2023, 05:59 PM
 
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Nice to see things branching out!




The Blade Runners Powering a Wind Farm
In West Virginia, a crew of five watches over twenty-three giant turbines

The state, once shackled to a coal economy, now has about four hundred turbines, which collectively can produce about seven hundred and fifty megawatts—enough to power more than two hundred thousand homes.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...ng-a-wind-farm
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:46 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Nice to see things branching out!




The Blade Runners Powering a Wind Farm
In West Virginia, a crew of five watches over twenty-three giant turbines

The state, once shackled to a coal economy, now has about four hundred turbines, which collectively can produce about seven hundred and fifty megawatts—enough to power more than two hundred thousand homes.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...ng-a-wind-farm
Not a fan of the wind machines in the scenic areas. I know the pros and cons but I just personally can't stand them since I lived in Iowa. There it is so bad that at night with all the lights you feel like you are a battery in some matrix meets terminator sort of nether world.
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Old 01-17-2023, 08:45 AM
 
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Total ruination of our beautiful mountain skylines. I detest them!

At least we can reclaim surface mine property.
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Old 01-17-2023, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania/Maine
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I'm a tree hugger and I despise windmills as well. May also be cause of dead whales washing up on shore lately. Coal done right with today's technology is still preferable in my book. Provides immensely more job too.
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Old 01-17-2023, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Agree with the other posters. Windmills on ridge tops are an environmental disaster; a destruction of rare and unique micro-climates with endemic animals and plants, not to mention migration routes for birds. To get the equipment to the ridge top means a destruction similar to coal mining with the destruction of large amounts of forest, construction or roads on ridge sides to haul up heavy equipment, mass leveling and grading of terrain, and the maintenance of grassy areas around the windmills and on the service roads that are corridors for invasive plants to spread onto the ridge tops.

I challenge any and all who support windmills on the high Alleghenies to go visit some ridge tops......go off trail, look around....then go visit a mountain top wind farm and see what was lost to construct it.
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Old 01-17-2023, 09:07 PM
 
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Well I’ve seen mountaintop removal for coal. Firsthand. Leveled the mountains and deposited the rubble in the creek bottoms below.

I’ve also seen subsidence holes around Clarksburg, horizontal gas drilling ‘ponds’ with slicks of petroleum and lord knows what else. One guy that let me hunt his 300 acres outside of Clarksburg stunk of chemicals. I took a doe whitetail one evening and when I skinned her the slick and smell on the flesh was intolerable. My wife agreed so we took it to the dump.

Pick your poison on your energy resources. None of them are ‘clean’.
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Old 01-18-2023, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania/Maine
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Well I’ve seen mountaintop removal for coal. Firsthand. Leveled the mountains and deposited the rubble in the creek bottoms below.

I’ve also seen subsidence holes around Clarksburg, horizontal gas drilling ‘ponds’ with slicks of petroleum and lord knows what else. One guy that let me hunt his 300 acres outside of Clarksburg stunk of chemicals. I took a doe whitetail one evening and when I skinned her the slick and smell on the flesh was intolerable. My wife agreed so we took it to the dump.

Pick your poison on your energy resources. None of them are ‘clean’.
I agree, I'm no fan of mountaintop removal either.
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Old 01-19-2023, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Well I’ve seen mountaintop removal for coal. Firsthand. Leveled the mountains and deposited the rubble in the creek bottoms below.

I’ve also seen subsidence holes around Clarksburg, horizontal gas drilling ‘ponds’ with slicks of petroleum and lord knows what else. One guy that let me hunt his 300 acres outside of Clarksburg stunk of chemicals. I took a doe whitetail one evening and when I skinned her the slick and smell on the flesh was intolerable. My wife agreed so we took it to the dump.

Pick your poison on your energy resources. None of them are ‘clean’.
No offense to our fine WV hosts here, but MD does surface mining much better. Upfront bonding for reclamation and laws that require restoration of the original slope and purpose (forest, Ag, etc.) of the land.

Many restored surface mines up here are indistinguishable to the untrained eye from other fields. Of course, you can't destroy the water table and stratified rock and replace it with rubble and expect everything to be as it was, it isn't. We don't allow fracking in Maryland, for better or worse, so I can't speak to natural gas removal other to agree that no form of energy is 'clean' in the way we wish them to be.

This process makes coal mining more expensive, so it is not economically feasible without a subsidy, can't compete with coal mined from less environmentally regulated states.
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