West Virginia University VS Marshall University (Charleston, Huntington: environment, property taxes, insurance)

[David Kennedy]

What is happening is this.
Millions are being spent in the Cabell County area.
200 BILLION is being spent up here....that is not misrepresentation, that is a fact. (Charles Point as an example is a 2 Billion dollar sub-division community for the Bridgeport area)
It's a matter of time, fiscally.
You convieniently omitted the enrollment from the additional FSU campuses....making Marshall # 3...sorry...live with it.

[GottaHerdOn]

Ummm... yea, well I've went to both schools (Fairmont State and Marshall University) and nearly went to WVU twice. Currently, I'm at Marshall and plan on staying here until I graduate. Kennedy, Marshall is the second biggest school in the state and we're growing... Just as fast as WVU is. We are getting a new engineering school. They are tearing down a whole section of a block along 3rd Avenue for it. The RCB bio research center is finished and open for classes, we are building 3 new tower style dorms, plus a new rec center. Academics at Marshall blow Fairmont States out of the water. I hated Fairmont State, I couldn't wait to get away. It was a hard decision because all my friends were there, but I had to make it. The quality of education is 100% better at Marshall. I actaually worked my butt off for an A in an english course there, and at the end of the semester the professor ended up giving everyone an A because we were his first college class. How fair is that?! Also the general reqs required to get into Fairmont State were way to LAX. As long as you took the ACT or SAT you would be accepted, no matter what your score. In other words you had some kids there that had composite scores of 12 on the ACT taking classes there. I'm all for everyone trying to better themselves and get trained and educated. But if you have a 12 on the ACT, you seriously need to buckle down and hit the books or rethink your path to success. I intended on going to WVU originally right out of high school, but my dad thought it would be better for me to go to Fairmont State because he lives in Fairmont as well.. UGH, wrong! The only thing I liked about FSU was the Rec Center, It was very nice, I hated how everything seemed so far from campus, and there were only two bars in the town that catered to the college crowd. Then I missed everyone once I transfered to Marshall my sophomore year here and was going to transfer to WVU to be closer to friends and family. Well i'm glad I met my boy friend and stayed here. Things have been great. Huntington is an amazing city with so much culture and the night life is amazing. The climate is great! It generally snows around Christmas and that is it! It gets cold, but at least it doesn't snow. I'm not that much into snow. The professors here genuinly want you to do well, and want you to succeed. I've become friends with many of my professors, I feel like I can go to many of them and ask them for help, whether it be academic or personal. I guess I bleed Green now. GO HERD!!!!

[WVUPharm2007]

Where do you get this $200 billion thing from, anyway? If that's true, than there is no way at all SW West Virginia could dream of touching the potential North Central West Virginia has. But...that just seems all too far fetched.

[GottaHerdOn]

It does. 200 million for a housing project + business park seems way out there.

[WVUPharm2007]

Well, there is a whole, whole lot more going on in the area than just that. The Suncrest area in Morgantown alone is probably the site of billions in investments. That research park is going to be a huge, monstrous addition to WVU both financially and in prestige. In addition, the entire Suncrest area is home to several new developments from condos and townhouses to housing subdivisions to huge apartment complexes to a new shopping center modeled after the Waterfront in Pittsburgh. And that's just one neighborhood of Morgantown. $200 billion is just a huge, unfathomable freakin' sum of money, that's all...amd I have trouble just believing a housing development is 2 billion....i dunno, maybe it is...

[GottaHerdOn]

But Brideport and Morgantown are different cities.... Thats like saying Charleston/Huntington area. Its a huge distance difference. It takes like 40-60 minutes to get to Charleston depending on traffic. I've been cought in actual gridlock in Charleston on my back way home before. Huntington doesn't consider projects going on in Charleston to really impact Huntington so much. Its more like Putnum and Wayne counties in WV, and Boyd county in KY and Lawrence county in OH. I hear Byrd is pushing for an Alzheimers Research Facility in Morgantown. Sorry, ha ha kind of random.. Its 4:04 in the morning.. what do you expect..

[David Kennedy]

GHO, actually there are three research centers in the works and two new parking garages for the WVU hospital complex. I don't think any real consideration was given to the idea that this dispursement of government tax dollars would cause a division in the state. The resentment has always been there about the Charleston/ Huntington area and how they always got ALL the money. Now that's ALL changing. Pittsburgh, Pa is the factor that is driving this change in demographics. It's a way to create and manage the horrendous growth, merge with one of the great cities of the east and clean up the petty local political criminals who have drained every project since 1863.
The southern end of the state IS being given money. The northern end of the state is being given ALL the money. Here is why.
1. Washington, DC is vulnerable to attack. If it is the victim of a terrorist action, refugees will flood to our area. Much of the nations government will be directed from this region. The evacuation plan for this catastrophie began last spring.
2. DC is also located in an flood plain. The next 100 years will see a change in ocean levels...a 7 foot rise is expected. With that comes the flooding of Washington. A new capitol or seat of government will/would be needed. Location: North Central West Virginia. Sound strange? Location is easy to defend, land is cheap as dirt, good, honest workforce. What you are seeing is the infrastructure for those needs.

And about that 2 billion dollar sub-division in Bridgeport? Charlespoint. Being set up for 22,000 people...isn't that strange? Where would they come from and why would they be here..
Get your degree, and I'm talking about your Masters and get your a// back up here...This is where all the opportunity will be for several lifetimes...and it will cause more division between the southern part of WV and the north and that is sad....dk

[tbailey1138]

No, the numbers on that site consider all facilities. It was actually the highest number I could find for FSU and the lowest for MU. Most sites actually listed FSU in the 4500 range and MU in the 16500 range. And in terms of investment, you seem to be the only one who has these numbers. Links would be nice to back them up. Bottom line is this, MSA for Charleston >300,000. MSA for Huntington >285,000. MSA for Fairmont >80,000. MSA for Morgantown >115,000. There's still a greater population in the Huntington/Charleston area. You can claim all of these "shifts" will happen in the future if you want to but untill it does, everything you posted above is just speculation, not fact. Yes housing developments and condos are being built in the Northcentral part of the state but guess what, they are being built here too. And in terms of carry over from D.C., that would be why the Eastern panhandle is growing, not Morgantown or Bridgeport which are both over 3 hours from D.C. The Eastern panhandle is actually the fastest growing area of the state with jefferson County adding around 20,000 people in the last 5-6 years.

[tbailey1138]

"And about that 2 billion dollar sub-division in Bridgeport? Charlespoint. Being set up for 22,000 people...isn't that strange?"

From the Charles Pointe Website:

"When Jamie Corton shared his company’s vision for a massive, $750 million master-planned community alongside Interstate..."

Not quite the $2 billion you claim.

"The overall numbers are staggering. When completed, Charles Pointe will encompass roughly 1,700 acres, have 2.6 million square feet of commercial and retail space and 2,300 residential units. And parks, recreation facilities and miles of walking trails."

Not quiet 22,000 people. If every unit had an average 4 member family in it, that's still less than 10,000 people.

Here's the link to the article:
Charles Pointe | News (broken link)

You just continue to illustrate my point about misrepresentation. Is growth going on? Sure is and that's a wonderful thing. But don't downplay growth in some areas of the state while grossly exaggerating growth in other areas.

[David Kennedy]

Tbailey, you did not read my comments clearly. Consisely this is what I said.
If DC is attacked in the future or the oceans rise and flood the capitol another place will be used to govern the country. This is not speculation.
Part of that infrastructure is the education of the thousands of people who will live here. WVU will not handle it and neither will FSU with its extended campuses. Quit being jealous and argumentive.
It is a situation of economics and long range planning.
Penn State and Carniege-Mellon have brand new campuses just 15 minutes away in Uniontown.
The population in North Central is growing rapidly, the expected growth is about 85,000 people for the region in the next 10 years. this will seperate us from southern West Virginia even more...this comparison and rivalry is ridiculous. Marshall is a great school and will do well. Its bigger than this pettiness...get on board and help...good luck...dk