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11-05-2008, 10:30 AM
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Wanna get a laugh? Struggling Lower-Class Still Unsure How Best To **** Selves With Vote | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
401K? Are you kidding? What good is a computer screen with digits on it? I own gold.
Hmmm legislation to reign them in? Chief Risk Officer for Bear-Stearns is now working for the Fed, regulating- RISK!!! "hello Fox"? "yes, this is Chicken... I know you just raided our coop last night, but would you mind watching the door for us tonight?"
"people who took advantage of the mortages were not being prudent or people who used their credit cards were being short sighted", Uh, gee... Maybe we can get the government to handle our personal finances too...?
"And it got this bad not because the consumer was an idiot but because the banks got greedy" Wow. So people are not responsible for their financial decisions? Should we remove the word "RESPONSIBILITY" from the dictionary?
Keep drinking the Kool-aide Angel- both sides of the aisle need you.
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11-05-2008, 11:08 AM
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Don't ask me. Most WVians I know are extremely frugal and tight with a dollar and they fix it themselves.
I believe that's why the state is in such good shape compared to the rest of the country. It is a testimonial to the people who live here and how they handle their finances.
I'm not sure when or why the mentality that if you used a credit card, it wasn't real money started, but it's over now.
I never get ccs any more. Maybe debit cards but people are using real money now. Imagine that. If you can see it and count it, you know how much you've got.
I do know that college students were innudated with cc offers when they started school. With 10K limits. Do you trust your child, and they are still children at 18, to handle that?
And I was always told if it looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true. No subprime mortgage for me. Fixed rate so I know exactly what I'm paying. I also know they can always change the game on you unless you have spelled out precisely. I have a very deep mistrust of big business.
And that is not judgemental because I believe the objective of businesses is to grow and make money. That's capitalism. If done right, it provides more jobs, more money into the economy and everyone prospers.
What I do find abhorrent is the few who take ALL the money and leave the house in shambles. And that was directly due to deregulation. Because if they can get away with it they will. Not all sociopaths are serial killers. Some are CEOs.
Don't get the reference to Kool-aide?
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11-05-2008, 11:30 AM
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I believe in a God...I call it Nature
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"Drinking the Kool-aid" is a phrase used when some one is buying into a particular idea without thought, or too much of it anyway. I think it may have originated with Jim Jones. I think his followers "drank the kool-aide" and it was poisoned.
In politics, I would use it to describe someone who spouts a parties philosophy without the knowing what it means, or what the basis for the argument is.
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11-05-2008, 11:32 AM
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11-05-2008, 12:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hinton Bound
"Drinking the Kool-aid" is a phrase used when some one is buying into a particular idea without thought, or too much of it anyway. I think it may have originated with Jim Jones. I think his followers "drank the kool-aide" and it was poisoned.
In politics, I would use it to describe someone who spouts a parties philosophy without the knowing what it means, or what the basis for the argument is.
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Wow Hinton, I was thinking the exact same thing of the speeches you were making. Do you and others in this thread realize just how much you've been influenced to think one way at the exclusion of all else?
Millers angel is correct in her spelling out Obama's policy but people are too fixated on his statement of putting the old ways in a position of bankruptsy if they don't change. No one else finds it suspicious that the statement was made in january, ignored throughout all debates, and dumped into the news stream 2 days before the election? Does WV mean to stay locked into the last century with technology, or does she mean to improve her situation???? Listen to how many whine and moan about wanting changes and improved economics for WV- they're the very same ones who defeat every idea and resist investing themselves into the very changes they long for in the first place. Nothing good can happen if you aren't willing to work for it.
Isn't it high time WV make up it's mind about what it wants for a future?
The same people who voted for Hillary in this state had the option of voting for Obama's plans which were quite similar. The rest was what? My church told me how to vote? I fear black people? Whatever reasons you had are your own and I hope for everyones sake Obama comes through for WV and our country. Lord only knows we've got enough cans of worms open to keep a body busy for 50 yrs undoing the damage of 8yrs.
ABCdom you've posted the same statement twice, after someone had already posted it. Repetition does not make it correct. It only appears that way to folks who hear the same lie often enough where it becomes a false truth.
To all those sore losers spewing venom in WV thread... your actions define your character. The sun came up this morning even if our new president is black or democrat or whatever it is you've decided to hate about him. You now get a taste of how it feels when the other half of the country thinks it knows better than you. Hopefully they won't spit in your face the way you did when bush was elected. Had we all been listening to the other side better the better candidates and the fair solutions would come to the fore. Too attached to party dogma or righteousness, no compromises are possible.
Anyone interested in discussing real issues and giving me real logic or introducing solutions for all of us- I've always had an open ear for each and every one of you regardless of party affiliation. I'm not willing to listen to hatred or lies, however, so don't expect it of me.
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11-05-2008, 12:38 PM
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WELL SAID!!! BRAVO BRAVO
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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11-05-2008, 01:53 PM
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I believe in a God...I call it Nature
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Originally Posted by harborlady
Wow Hinton, I was thinking the exact same thing of the speeches you were making. Do you and others in this thread realize just how much you've been influenced to think one way at the exclusion of all else?
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yeah, silly me. Expecting people to work for what they want, not just holding their hand out and saying "Give it to me". And the government forcing it from me at gun point.
Silly me for expecting politicians to actually mean what they say when they swear to "Support and defend the Constitution"
Silly me for not wanting to turn my country into a Socialist empire.
Silly me for thinking that the ENTIRE Bill of Rights apply to me.
Silly me for thinking that people don't deserve front-of-the-line priveliges because they're gay, black, don't speak english, or belong to any other minority gaggle.
Guess I'm just an out dated, red-blooded American, who foolishly thought you got out of life what you earned.
I'm only infuenced by the Constitution. I held up my hand and swore an oath to it, I swore my life to its defense. At the exclusion of all else?? You bet; there is no higher law.
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11-05-2008, 04:19 PM
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11-05-2008, 04:24 PM
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I don't know what the total is that Obama's campaign raised but, here's the guy/gal I'd like to vote for 4 years from now.....
The person who takes all the $$ their campaign raises and instead of buying air time, etc. -- use it to help the poor, pay on the National Debt, whatever - just do something to really help people. The candidate would get a lot of free press for that and show the American people he/she really cares.
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