Byrd steps down? (Charleston, Hundred: fit in, 2010, house)

[x1x]

I wonder how this is going to affect WV now that Byrd has stepped down? Or was he pressured to step down?

The Charleston Gazette - West Virginia News and Sports - Politics - Byrd steps down as Appropriations Committee chairman*

[Georgia]

Surprised that PB Bob can still stand up. Sorry! To me the sad part has nothing to do with Byrd, but why in the HE double toothpick did WV once again re-elect the old Carpetbagger Rockefeller again
Never ceases to amaze me, everytime you get your hopes up, Pow!

Back to the question, he was probably forced down. Though I was never a fan of Old Yellow Dog Pork Barrell Bob, with this far left crew coming in Senator Byrd is no doubt considered a far right wing conservative by their measures. Add that to the fact that WV went Red you will probably see many a Red state legislature Democrat or not knocked down a few pegs, mark my words you will see the Kool Aid Obama drinkers have their Grape Juice thrown back in their faces beginning 21 January. We have not seen anything yet.

Thoughts to think about: Bernie Sanders of Vermont is listed as a "Socialist" and the new leadership has an overall scored voting record to the "left" of Sanders.

[harborlady]

x1x I don't know what the future holds when that foothold representing WV is gone. I think WV is bound to lose some pork over it, but if WV means to embrace republican philosophy fully, they should be against pork. Right? Subsidy= welfare. Or it's seed money. Depends on the terms, whose pocketbook is the sponsor and especially how you care to look at it. I'd like to see WV have viable economy that's self sufficient, but my vote only goes so far and of course others may think they've got a better plan by keeping things the same.

Hope WV figures things out for themselves before negative trickle down economics head this way. Clear vision for a future is needed, and building that now-- the climate is favorable for some things, and unfavorable for other things. Knowing the difference will decide who profits and who gets left behind because they don't want to look reality in the eye. Please see my slogan below name. All states are due for a rude awakening when the true accounting gets revealed. We're in serious financial troubles as a nation. It needs fixing. We must fix it. How bad do things have to get before the need for change becomes undeniable?

Georgia the republicans did not lose because they compromised. They lost because they failed to do so all along. They used hate language directed towards the other half of the country, and further dividing the country with hatred is not leadership. Leaders unite. Republicans also lost because of their disrespect of the constitution, and fiscally liberal policies that people don't want. I had a better shot at keeping more of what I earned with Obama than I did with neocons. He's already moved to the middle on economic policy. This is a good thing, even for conservatives.

When are they going to redo the elections where you're at? What happens if it's another tie?

[David Kennedy]

Hoppy Kerchival said it was the 'end of an era...

I remember the Era of Nothing before RCB....we will be returning to that now...

One man did so much inspite of the opposition...

Now we have schools, roads...communities with solid jobs...He actually created a state...singlehandedly...

A coal camp orphan who rose to a great stature...such an opposite of the political norm...

[kookamus]

Byrd got eased out by Harry Reid. I hear tell that Byrd wasn't all that liked by his fellow senators.

[Georgia]

Originally Posted by harborlady

Georgia the republicans did not lose because they compromised. They lost because they failed to do so all along. They used hate language directed towards the other half of the country, and further dividing the country with hatred is not leadership. Leaders unite. Republicans also lost because of their disrespect of the constitution, and fiscally liberal policies that people don't want. I had a better shot at keeping more of what I earned with Obama than I did with neocons. He's already moved to the middle on economic policy. This is a good thing, even for conservatives.

When are they going to redo the elections where you're at? What happens if it's another tie?

Harbor,

What I mean was they comprimised their conservative principals instead of standing firm on their beliefs. In short, they went from Reagan / Contract for America Republicans to Rockefeller / Neo-Con Republicans, then off to your point, which I agree except for keeping your money under Obama.

Obama is neither a Centrist nor is he a bi-partisian. Actually, though I 100% disagree with his collectivist views, Obama is known to stand firm on his beliefs. A good example is his new Chief of Staff that is listed as the most partisian politician in office today. When Obama allowes the tax cuts to expire in Jan 2010, which he will, both you and me will be out even more dollars.

Next item: Georgia.
This is the most asinine election laws I have ever seen. You can win but it has to be 50+1% of the popular vote
Now, we have to run off again on December 2nd, spend another large amount of taxpayer money for a runoff, which you don't need 50+1% of the vote, again,
IMO, Chambliss won. He won by a few thousand, not hundred votes. he won.
And we think West By Golly has funny elections

[Georgia]

Originally Posted by kookamus

Byrd got eased out by Harry Reid. I hear tell that Byrd wasn't all that liked by his fellow senators.

I just hope Nevada wises up during the off year elections in 2 and gets rid of this clown.

[David Kennedy]

RCB never fit in with the congressional crowd because he is an honest man...disliked Rocky because of his run-ins with Nelson Rocky, (who liked to give people the finger) and Mr.'s Moneyhand for various and sundry reasons...

I want all the kooks that my party can gather to come to DC...give us a mega-load of stupidity and idiocy coupled with mismanagement...then someone needs to go to the Cayman Islands and bring home the real bail-out money...
Just like Castro did in 1959...took all that Mob money out of the Havana Banks and used it for schools and hospitals...we have kept anmbargo in place to punish him...It's time to let the poor Cubans live...they have paid the price for our congress and most of their mob cronies ae dead or in prison..

[harborlady]

Originally Posted by David Kennedy

Hoppy Kerchival said it was the 'end of an era...
I remember the Era of Nothing before RCB....we will be returning to that now...
One man did so much inspite of the opposition...

Now we have schools, roads...communities with solid jobs...He actually created a state...singlehandedly...
A coal camp orphan who rose to a great stature...such an opposite of the political norm...

I've not been around long but from the way most WV'ns talk about him, he's been a loyal public servant for decades. I don't think you can be in politics this long and have that high praise bestowed upon you unless it's legit. Wonder how beside themselves Mass voters will be if ted kennedy doesn't make it.
I think Byrd did the right thing stepping down considering his health issues going on, which only reiterates his commitment to the greater good. Kook- I think you've given Reid more authority than he's got. He doesn't control Byrd's health. Even Doc's can only do so much... the nature of mortality we all answer humbly.

Daniel Inouye is a WW2 vet and has always struck me as a very even handed man. I think we'll be OK if we've got decent candidates running to replace Byrd when the day comes. Know offhand anyone being groomed in either party?

Cayman Islands... ! Now we're cooking with gas! DC needs a hose down and delousing. Annie get your gun.

Originally Posted by Georgia

Harbor,

What I mean was they compromised their conservative principals instead of standing firm on their beliefs. In short, they went from Reagan / Contract for America Republicans to Rockefeller / Neo-Con Republicans, then off to your point, which I agree except for keeping your money under Obama.

Obama is neither a Centrist nor is he a bi-partisian. Actually, though I 100% disagree with his collectivist views, Obama is known to stand firm on his beliefs. A good example is his new Chief of Staff that is listed as the most partisian politician in office today. When Obama allowes the tax cuts to expire in Jan 2010, which he will, both you and me will be out even more dollars.

Next item: Georgia.
This is the most asinine election laws I have ever seen. You can win but it has to be 50+1% of the popular vote
Now, we have to run off again on December 2nd, spend another large amount of taxpayer money for a runoff, which you don't need 50+1% of the vote, again,
IMO, Chambliss won. He won by a few thousand, not hundred votes. he won.
And we think West By Golly has funny elections

We're all in a position now to wait and see and no amount of speculation counts as much as where his feet are pointing and how he uses his muscles. This is what I saw that tipped the scales toward him... he wasn't so stuck on party dogma as to deny ANY tool necessary to fix what's broken or dysfunctional. Let the problem frame the solution. He's talking stimulus package, and that plan is originally authored by the right.

We need ALL tools in the drawer, not just a few or a favored one that worked last time. I saw in him an intellectual flexibility more concerned with raw reality and doing the right thing as effectively as possible (for all of us, not just we the people, but commerce too). If a problem calls for conservative approach, I think he'd use it even if dems cry foul about it. I see Emanuel's appointment as being the 'pit bull' keeping the nonsense in house whining to a dull roar. He'll be wearing the black hat as chief of staff. The nature of the beast. Obama allowing hard core liberalism to rule the roost will be his downfall if he goes that way.

It's my sincerest hope that all parties take a serious look at Ron Paul's fiscal concerns (about the fed/ treasury/ congressional $$) which I feel are legitimate, before they frame regulations for financial institutions we're bailing out begrudgingly. Hundred + yr old policies need to be re evaluated for efficacy in light of digital age and porous boundaries of global free trade & IMF. The GAO is pointing at similar things and I agree with their assessments for long term health of the country. Libertarians would be wise to have the comprehensive list of nonsense pork ready to be put on the desk of exec, house and senate. The door is opening for your take on problems, please use it!

It's my attitude that the sooner I recognize a mistake I've made, the sooner I can redirect my effort. I don't have to beat myself up about it-- it's good news, I just got smarter, now I can do better. If I were too vested in saving face in defiance of reality I've voluntarily chained myself to failure. Wisdom shared with me from those far more experienced & successful.

Stay the course was insane in the context of my brothers & sisters in arms forced to march to incompetent leadership. We win wars by having the sense to adapt to circumstances, not march stoically like red coats to meet a blade. My loyalty lies with them forever as a permanent lock, not to any flavor of the month ideology or staid party dogma. They might have to die, but to die in vain? We owe them our lives on a two way street.
Palin... The wrong woman in office was so much worse than none.

Georgia (state) should consider california's approach. Recounts are paid for by the candidate campaign funds, not the tax payers. I think it's wise because it prevents abuses to the system with spiteful games when they know they've got to bankroll their own grievances. Funny how reasonable people get when they find out what it costs them.

[Bobilee]

I think we need to find a Hatfield to run for office. Ole Doc was pretty good. And the Hatfields take pork pretty seriously. Henry D. Hatfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia