Is the WV pandhandle any more southern than Ohio? (Charleston: college, living)

[CTMountaineer]

Originally Posted by Bobilee

Like I've said before, you can't define WV by the northern panhandle any more than you can define a submarine by its periscope.

That's true, and you can't define it by its fat underbelly either. The State has at least 5 areas each of which are quite distinct from the others in character. Yet every one of them is Appalachian... that is the common trait. And, none of those areas is large enough in population that it dominates the whole State.

[Bobilee]

I more often see people using the panhandles to define WV rather than the rest of the state. And according to the recent CDC studies we are indeed defined by our fat underbelly.

[CTMountaineer]

Originally Posted by Bobilee

I more often see people using the panhandles to define WV rather than the rest of the state. And according to the recent CDC studies we are indeed defined by our fat underbelly.

The stereotypes are associated with the fat underbelly, but that is in no way typical of the rest of the State. No offense intended. I have many friends and some relatives in that part of the State, but compared with the other areas it is just a little less welcoming there overall. I would be interested in seeing your studies, but obesity in Huntington doesn't count.

[Blasey]

I live in the NP, I work in Pittsburgh and have traveled not only around the state, but also around the world.

When I've been in the North East (Maine, NY, CT, NH, RI) etc... I was accused of having a southern accent. When I've been in NC or Atlanta, I've been told I talk to fast and have a northern accent.

As far as mannerism is concerned, The NP shares the same as the people in Western PA and Eastern Ohio, the region.

[Bobilee]

Originally Posted by CTMountaineer

The stereotypes are associated with the fat underbelly, but that is in no way typical of the rest of the State. No offense intended. I have many friends and some relatives in that part of the State, but compared with the other areas it is just a little less welcoming there overall. I would be interested in seeing your studies, but obesity in Huntington doesn't count.

I was just joking, CT. But I am quite serious when I say that in most discussions of WV the panhandles are used as divining rods, but panhandles by their very nature are atypical. The northern panhandle, of course, is used to show that WV is northern. The eastern panhandle is used to show that WV is mid-Atlantic. I rarely see southern WV used as a defining region, it is usually referred to as an exception, as if the panhandles were the norm. But to me southern and central WV are the heart of the state.

[westvissouri]

I think that I can agree about being "Up North" (Northeastern States) and being "accused" (and it really does seem that way sometime) of having a Southern Accent. But I can't say that I've ever been South and been told I have a "Northern" accent.

Since no one can agree on this subject or perhaps it's just a hot topic. West Virginia is an Appalachian State, and predominantly Appalachian in character. There are many different areas of this state that have a different flavor to it.

It's safe to say that West Virginia is the Northernmost Southern State and the Southernmost Northern State.

[vec101]

Originally Posted by CTMountaineer

That's true, and you can't define it by its fat underbelly either. The State has at least 5 areas each of which are quite distinct from the others in character. Yet every one of them is Appalachian... that is the common trait. And, none of those areas is large enough in population that it dominates the whole State.

Except on game day - then WVU and MoTown dominates the whole state.

[vec101]

Originally Posted by Blasey

I live in the NP, I work in Pittsburgh and have traveled not only around the state, but also around the world.

When I've been in the North East (Maine, NY, CT, NH, RI) etc... I was accused of having a southern accent. When I've been in NC or Atlanta, I've been told I talk to fast and have a northern accent.

As far as mannerism is concerned, The NP shares the same as the people in Western PA and Eastern Ohio, the region.

Me too - I get that all the time, plus, mine is complicated by the fact I grew up in NE Ohio. Guess I now have an accent all my own.

[vec101]

Originally Posted by westvissouri

It's safe to say that West Virginia is the Northernmost Southern State and the Southernmost Northern State.

I'd say that is a perfect description.

[CTMountaineer]

Originally Posted by westvissouri

I think that I can agree about being "Up North" (Northeastern States) and being "accused" (and it really does seem that way sometime) of having a Southern Accent. But I can't say that I've ever been South and been told I have a "Northern" accent.

Since no one can agree on this subject or perhaps it's just a hot topic. West Virginia is an Appalachian State, and predominantly Appalachian in character. There are many different areas of this state that have a different flavor to it.

It's safe to say that West Virginia is the Northernmost Southern State and the Southernmost Northern State.

I'm originally from Wheeling and worked in the NYC area for more than 15 years. They thought I had somewhat of a southern accent too. But, you have to understand, to a New Yorker or a Bostonian, someone from Philadelphia has a southern accent. It's all relative. In general, they think Pittsburgers are southern "hicks". Actually if you listen to one and take the accent out of the equation, they actually do use a more pure form of Appalachian speech in Pittsburgh. The yinzers are definitely Appalachian, but they are too dumb to realize it.