Rockefeller introduces controversial bill gives Pres power over Internet (Charleston: appointed, 2009)

[vec101]

Jay has introduced a bill which is causing quite stir. Looks like there arevery good parts to it but also parts which have some worried about the power it gives to the President. Gives the President the power to declare a cybersecurity emergency and shut down internet traffic.

The Rockefeller-Snowe measure would create the Office of the National Cybersecurity Adviser, whose leader would report directly to the president and would coordinate defense efforts across government agencies.
Legislation would create new cybersecurity regulations | The Industry Standard

Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is underway, the officials said.
U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, & Transportation

The good part of the bill:

According to a number of media reports, the bill was crafted with the cooperation of the White House. The legislation aims to create a fully integrated, coordinated public-private partnership on cyber-security in addition to pushing for innovation and creativity in cyber-security solutions.

"We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs—from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records—the list goes on," Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), bill co-sponsor, said in a statement. "It's an understatement to say that cyber-security is one of the most important issues we face; the increasingly connected nature of our lives only amplifies our vulnerability to cyber-attacks and we must act now." Unplug the Internet: No President should have this power

The bad part of the bill:

Senators John Rockefeller (D-W. Va.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) ... introduced a bill to establish the Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor—an arm of the executive branch that would have vast power to monitor and control Internet traffic to protect against threats to critical cyber infrastructure. That broad power is rattling some civil libertarians.

The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 (PDF) gives the president the ability to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" and shut down or limit Internet traffic in any "critical" information network "in the interest of national security." The bill does not define a critical information network or a cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president.

The bill does not only add to the power of the president. It also grants the Secretary of Commerce "access to all relevant data concerning [critical] networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access." This means he or she can monitor or access any data on private or public networks without regard to privacy laws.
Daily Kos: State of the Nation

The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced in the Senate would allow the president to shut down private Internet networks. The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access. Unplug the Internet: No President should have this power

[Silkdashocker]

Sounds good to me.

[atlantagreg30127]

What it boils down to is the internet is a hodge-podge of disambiguated systems all over the place that make up what we use today. It's disorganized, and EXTREMELY fragile and easy to bring down if someone were to bother to take aim at it, which one day, they no doubt will.

More and more systems (electric grids, etc) are being interlinked via the web to increase efficiency, speed, and reduce costs. This does however, open us up to a new type of attack through the web. It's entirely possible for a cyber-terrorist to shut down the power to tens of millions of people at once with a single command if they now what they're doing, especially once most of our systems are interlinked together via the web as technology advances.

Personally, I'd like to see them move on with the "web 2.0" thing, or even create a new completely private internet that the public cannot access, which would only be used by government and utility system companies, leaving the web as we know it today alone for the public. But the costs would be such that people would criticize any President who puts a "secondary secure web" in place, too.

Look at it this way - since the 1940s, the President has the power to order the turning of two little keys that would start a Nuclear War within minutes. You can't get more controversial than that. Having power to temporarily shut down parts of the internet if they see a potential threat seem pale in comparison to having the power to shoot nukes with a single call on a red phone.

[red.ochre]

This is where you tell me Marxism isn't communism.

[David Kennedy]

This is goofy and not needed.

The FBI and CIA data mining centers are at work day and night with impressive data collection methods. If I type a certain word into this blog...anything subversive. It will automaticlly trigger a mole to check me out...If I have a crimminal record or terrorist activities, am a suspected subversive in a profile position it records my internet activities.

In the Washington Post "Want Ads..page after page of listings are offered for Data Miners..this is what a part of them do. Check Out these people who come under scrutiny.

In the old days (and the present) of communist Russia and China, each neighbor spied on each other.

Now we have these media vehicles...and as a law, it will take away just a little more liberty.

Let's set up a hypothetical example.

Say the towel heads set off a dirty device in DC. And a massive out-migration begins from that city.
Closing off internet communication means shutting off your blackberry. If you have people in that area you cannot contact them and vice versa.

If martial law is in effect and our people are killed/ controlled by our military you will not know about it.

In the old days of WW-2 the sender of information was the radio and everyone gathered in the parlor at 6 pm to hear FDR tell them what he wanted them to hear. "Fireside Chats"..so peaceful.

Now information is directed from person to person, instantanously. And that transmission is being monitored constantly. England had this for years...Laws against CB's and personal phones. Now the market has changed them.

Our internet and cell phones are a distinct link to the world...I check on people globally almost each day.

Perhaps this is a problem that should be addressed in 'Getting ready for the Collapse.

[kookamus]

Any thing with rockefeller's name on it is a joke. I can't stand him!

[red.ochre]

Originally Posted by kookamus

Any thing with rockefeller's name on it is a joke. I can't stand him!

Funny :

Someone recently sent a suspicious white powder to him, turned out to be baking soda. Comment noted : Why did they send it to the Charleston office, he hasn't been there since the election.

Not funny :

If you want to undo programming you have been assaulted with, then read this . . relevant to whom we're discussing :
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bilderberg.htm

IMO : The sheep are preparing for their suicide (global depopulation), and Hollywood, or mass media, is assisting them with this programming.

IMO : Mr. Kennedy's assessment is correct, that in a state of emergency, martial law will cut us off from each other, and information, but more certain is this last bastion of investigative journalism, the internet, will be squashed. Obama is a mere puppet for these globalists, but his track record of thuggery, censorship, and his assault on freedom warrants a resounding "NO" in giving him any power to use at his discretion.


"I believe that the Council on Foreign Relations and its ancillary elitist groups are indifferent to communism. They have no ideological anchors. In their pursuit of a New World Order, they are prepared to deal without prejudice with a communist state, a socialist state, a democratic state, a monarchy, an oligarchy - it's all the same to them.
Their goal is to impose a benign stability on the quarreling family of nations through merger and consolidation. They see the elimination of national boundaries, the suppression of racial and ethnic loyalties, as the most expeditious avenue to world peace. They believe economic competition is the root cause of international tension.
Perhaps if the council's vision of the future were realized, it would reduce wars, lessen poverty and bring about a more efficient utilization of the world's resources. To my mind, this would inevitably be accompanied by a loss in personal freedom of choice and re-establishment of the restraints that provoked the American revolution."
-- Barry Goldwater, 1979

When it was founded in 1921, the CFR was dominated by J.P. Morgan. Morgan is a Rothschild tentacle. This simply reinforces the obvious, that the CFR is a Rothschild instrument operated by the Rockefellers. The CFR is the immediate progeny of Rhodes' Round Table, which was underwritten by the Rothschilds.
David Rockefeller is the chairman emeritus of the CFR. Rockefeller also founded in 1973, and is honorary chairman of, the Trilateral Commission.

Edward Mandell House [founder of CFR] was a Marxist whose goal was to socialize the United States. In 1912 House wrote the book, Philip Dru: Administrator; In it, he said he was working for "Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx." The original edition of the book did not name House as its author, but he made it clear in numerous ways that he indeed was its creator.
.
.
From its beginning in 1921, the CFR began to attract men of power and influence. In the late 1920s, important financing for the CFR came from the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation. In 1940, at the invitation of President Roosevelt, members of the CFR gained domination over the State Department, and they have maintained that domination ever since.
.
.
But the CFR's influence had also spread to other vital areas of American life. Its members have run, or are running, NBC and CBS, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Des Moines Register, and many other important newspapers. The leaders of Time, Life, Newsweek, Fortune, Business Week, and numerous other publications are CFR members. The organization's members also dominate the academic world, top corporations, the huge tax-exempt foundations, labor unions, the military, and just about every segment of American life.
Let's look at the Council's Annual Report published in 1978. The organization's membership list names 1,878 members, and the list reads like a Who's Who in America. Eleven CFR members are U.S. senators; even more congressmen belong to the organization. Sitting on top of this immensely powerful pyramid, as Chairman of the Board, is David Rockefeller.
As can be seen in that CFR Annual Report, 284 of its members are U.S. government officials. Any organization which can boast that 284 of its members are U.S. government officials should be well-known. Yet most Americans have never even heard of the Council on Foreign Relations.
One reason why this is so is that 171 journalists, correspondents and communications executives are also CFR members, and they don't write about the organization.
.
.
Unfortunately, the Council on Foreign Relations is not the only group proposing an end to the sovereignty of the United States. In 1973, another organization which now thoroughly dominates the Carter Administration first saw the light of day. Also based in New York City, this one is called the Trilateral Commission.

[kookamus]

Yeras ago when i heard people talk about the CFR and Bilderbergers i thought they were nuts but the older i get the more i believe it. We are under attack by the commies. I was raised up in the cold war era and it is ingrained in my mind that the communism is EVIL! Here is the oath i took:

I, Kookamus, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States (UNLESS HE IS A COMMIE AND NOT BORN IN THE U.S.) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

[Hinton Bound]

We have devised the perfect form of slavery. We are slaves, and don't even know it.
Another "agency" to oversee us, to protect us from ourselves. To relieve us of such a burden, will only cost a little of our freedoms; certainly you have nothing to hide Comrade.. do you? Then, or course you won't oppose this measure.

This is why we now elect "leaders", not "representatives". We need to be led, we are too lazy to do for ourselves. Disgusting.

We walk willingly to the gallows. Like lambs to slaughter, aware only of the food placed before it to keep it moving. Moving gleefully to its own demise. Yes, change is coming.

[vec101]

Attend a Tea Party in your area.