Are there children in WV going to bed not knowing where thier next meal comes from? (Huntington: sales, credit card)

[Georgia]

I can see points from all on this forum including threerun.
The ones I do feel sorry for are the Children. I see them everywhere I travel. Most from welfare mothers, missing dads, and multiple brothers and sisters from multiple fathers. It is generational.

As our government grows pushing more and more dependency, this circle of fate will continue and it is very unfortunate.

You see the same thing here in Georgia. Missing Dad's or Dad's in jail, Mom's in shelters wondering how they became mixed up with a beater only to go out the door and find another one. All you need to do is look at the criminal dockets of young thugs, the majority fits the mold.

Get's down to one thing, the overall erosion of the value base. It began under LBJ's Great Society boomed with Carter's close out of mandatory mental health facilities, exploded with the Bush/Clinton dynasty of open borders, and now in warp speed with our just about completed state run government controlled nation.

There was an old saying one time that Jeff Foxworthy uses, goes something like this:

"Show me a baby running around in a dirty diaper, with no shoes, sucking on a baby bottle full of Mountain Dew, and I will show you a future NASCAR fan."

[BJC]

GHO, yes GO GO Go. I would take off work and go with you, I could drive, but alas as DK says time gets really crammed

HB it is about responsibility! My own mother married 4 times and not one of them is my bio father, she was young and full of mistakes, she was the best mom she could be, but I wanted something different, been married 34 yrs to the same man. It is called committment and responsibility, not something some of our young know anything about. So sad.

[nikongirl24]

I think it is sad that Huntington is known as the "Fattest city in the USA", yet there really are people going hungry down here. I have volunteered at the soup kitchen, empty bowls soup supper and the homeless shelter. You'd be amazed the people who come for a meal-- people NOT on the streets. Times are tough for everyone and it is sad to see kids in there scarfing down food like they haven't eaten in days.

That's why we donate to the food pantry every month. Help out when we can. You never know when you may be the one needing help, so what's the harm?

[GottaHerdOn]

Originally Posted by David Kennedy

Cody, school is out...pack your bags and head for Yellowstone...
You've been to poor Europe and seen the effects of the Russian gangsters...now, get that jeep pointed west and see how big and great this county is...make a circle... St, Louis and the Arch...Dakotas and Mt. Rushmore..Jackson Hole...

Go to Seattle and see a real China Town and ride the ferrys to the Islands, see the whales in the Straits.
Go down the coast to Frisco...Sausalito and the wine country...forget LA...head to Vegas and Salt Lake City...then to Denver and Colorado Springs and Pikes Peak...Texas will be to hot so set the cruise for home...

I'm serious...tell Grandpa..you need a loan and you will only have this window of opportunity this one summer. Go!

These sights and memories will be priceless in the future when time really gets crammed. It's geographical!

David, actually I just got back from Phoenix yesterday.... ha ha I already beat you to it. But sadly school is not out for me, my first summer class ended about a week ago ( I got an A btw) and I basically jumped on a plane and went to Phoenix and I just got back this morning at 5 am. Now I have to focus on macro economics.... I loved Phoenix though, it was amazing. I might consider it for graduate school. I did the whole trip on about $400, so it didn't set me back too far. I might go back again after this class ends and the next one begins.

[GottaHerdOn]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

Well played Sir, well played! Remember: Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic!

I get in my cynical moods from time to time... ha ha

On the flight back from Phoenix I was on an Airbus 300 or something the same one that took that pit stop in the Atlantic, and the captain came on and said we were going through a storm and turned the fasten seat belt sign on, and I just laughed... I thought of Ron White when he did that bit about the geese passing the plane and the engines lasting all the way to the scene of the crash.. ha ha ha

[David Kennedy]

To see this country and get the perspective, a person must do it from ground level.

Keep burning the 'midnite oil...you're part of the vast swarm of minds who's work will be to save this land...

It still has potential.

[Threerun]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

I grew up hungry. There were many night we didn't eat, and times there was no heat or hot water in the house. It wasn't anyones fault but my parents. Plain and simple. I guess the truth isn't in vogue these days.

Yeah well so did I. A mother who made enough to pay the mortgage but made too much for 'welfare'. My dad slipped into alcoholism and became abusive- all of which occured well after they were married.

I grew up in that world, I was a on the .10 lunch program, clothes from Goodwill, charity from neighbors and friends.

It wasn't my mothers 'fault' that my old man became a nutjob. In fact- she is a hero for divorcing his a*s, moving us out, and struggling to make ends meet. And we sure as hell did get some of that 'charity' you so wish to deplore.

That's 'truth'.

[David Kennedy]

Good for you...those trials and experiences have given you the life YOU have created...

The one you have earned for yourself....

That's the difference in America...but those experiences are coming for the masses...

Maturity is having those experiences...seeing Sh*t happen all around you and not panicing...facing it and beating it..

That's Wv!

[Hinton Bound]

Originally Posted by Threerun

Yeah well so did I. A mother who made enough to pay the mortgage but made too much for 'welfare'. My dad slipped into alcoholism and became abusive- all of which occured well after they were married.

I grew up in that world, I was a on the .10 lunch program, clothes from Goodwill, charity from neighbors and friends.

It wasn't my mothers 'fault' that my old man became a nutjob. In fact- she is a hero for divorcing his a*s, moving us out, and struggling to make ends meet. And we sure as hell did get some of that 'charity' you so wish to deplore.

That's 'truth'.

Maybe I wasn't clear: It's not the charity piece I deplore. I think charity is great, that's the way it should be- the local community taking care of it's own. That way, there isn't the endless gravy train for the lazy and stupid.
What I deplore is the chronic welfare state that allows generations of lazy to loaf about- laziness is a learned behavior. There is no longer pride is self sustainment. We, as a society, have made it OK to be a perpetual welfare case. Free food, free shelter, free medical- all with no strings attached. I would limit social assistance to 1 year for every 5 that a person works. If they know it's not an endless meal ticket, they may regain their initiative to care for their own children, and stop requiring others to do thier work for them.

You know what stands out to me in you post? Your mother struggled to make ends meet. She didn't sit on her butt with her hand out. That is what we've lost in this country.

[Threerun]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

You know what stands out to me in you post? Your mother struggled to make ends meet. She didn't sit on her butt with her hand out. That is what we've lost in this country.

The whole point is that there ARE people in need for good reason, and there ARE places to give charity to.

The original poster wasn't looking for an Op Ed on systemic abusers of welfare, ad naseum.

From what I've read most of the negative posters seem willing to throw the whole lot into the later. And that, in my mind, is absolutely deplorable and goes against our collective moral grain. Or at least what our moral grain should be.