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Old 06-26-2009, 06:06 AM
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Nicki Joe and Mollohan made statements as late as Wed that they weren't taking a stand on Cap & Trade til the final bill was out. Yesterday rallies were held at Nicki Joe's offices (don't know about Mollohan's), the public flooded the offices with phone calls, and a coal groups went to DC.

Guess what? Nicki Joe late yesterday afternoon came out with a statement that he was NOT going to support the Cap & Trade bill.. Heard Mollohan has made the same statement but haven't seen it on the news.

Now this AM, heard that Pelosi may be calling off the vote scheduled for today.

Hey Congress, the public will be keeping a close eye on you concerning this bill.
Don't think you will postpone the bill to sneak it through when the public isn't looking.

The Feds have woke the sleeping giant of the Silent Majority and we will remain alert.
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Old 06-26-2009, 06:49 AM
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Perhaps Comrade Pelosi will take the 747 JUMBO-JET back to California early this week and help Governor Schwarzenegger solve his 35 billion dollar budget problem...
(I have a solution, Tax the Illegals...charge a State Admission Tax with their Drivers License)

Our congress-cats knew that this Bill would be the handwriting on the wall for them...vote for it and they are OUT OF OFFICE, Period...

These Public Servants???? are on the way out anyway...remember, we are only about 16 months from election time.
They have consistantly voted a straight party line to weaken this country.

It's not just in Wv...wise people are rising all over the country..
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:07 PM
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Default House Passes "Cap and Trade"

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Old 06-26-2009, 07:43 PM
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111th Congress, 1st session, House vote 477 | Congress votes database | washingtonpost.com

American Thinker Blog: Cap-And-Tax Passes House Despite Last Ditch 300 Page Switch
American Thinker Blog: Cap-and-trade: The biggest scam of all

Democrat Nays
Jason Altmire, Michael Arcuri, John Barrow, Marion Berry, Dan Boren, Bobby Bright, Christopher Carney, TRAVIS Childers, Jim Costa, Jerry Costello, Kathy Dahlkemper, Lincoln Davis, Artur Davis, Peter DeFazio, Joe Donnelly, Chet Edwards, Brad Ellsworth, Bill Foster, Parker Griffith, Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, Tim Holden, Ann Kirkpatrick, Larry Kissell, Dennis Kucinich, Jim Marshall, Eric Massa, Jim Matheson, Mike McIntyre, Charles Melancon, Walt Minnick, Harry Mitchell, Alan Mollohan, Glenn Nye, Solomon Ortiz, Earl Pomeroy, Nick Rahall, Ciro Rodriguez, Mike Ross, John Salazar, Pete Stark, John Tanner, Gene Taylor, Peter Visclosky, Charles Wilson

Republican Yays
Mary Bono, Michael Castle, Mark Kirk, Leonard Lance, Frank LoBiondo, John McHugh, David Reichert, Christopher Smith

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Nay Shelley Moore Capito (Republican)
Nay Alan Mollohan (Democrat)
Nay Nick Rahall (Democrat)
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:44 PM
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A real message can be sent to DC by throwing out of offices these 'Carte Baggers...They should have been a voice championing the revenue causes of this state but they were very silent...and

MR. JAY MONEYBAG was talking out of his #ss the other day as he always does when an important issue is at hand....

HE has to go too!

If we send this message, others will take courage and do it too...we need a real change and I mean a new government...lets trade these worthless schleps for NEW ONES.
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I can't belive NJR even entertained the idea of being undecided a few days ago. Glad he came to his senses.

From Friday's Charleston Daily Mail:

"There are more than 30,000 coal miners in the state, with an average salary of more than $60,000 per year.Coal adds more than $3.5 billion to West Virginia's gross state product, more than 13 percent of the total."

(Can we use just a few quotes without copyright infringement, Moderator?)
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Old 06-27-2009, 04:05 AM
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The unfortunate collateral damage will be to the great group of people who cannot afford over $100 per week for their electric service.

I was a member of our county planning commission for over 5 years.
An assistant to Mr. Moneyhand, in one meeting I will never forget, answered a question of heavy taxation on the poor this way.

"If they cannot carry the costs of the 'Revenue Stream, they will have to move."

so the answer to this question is before us...The Revenue Stream must be large, flowing and protected by the elete, from the Rabble. But...but...these rabble pay for this Revenue Stream...

The Revenue Stream, btw, is a visual interpetation of green tax money flowing to the ever using, ever encompassing, ever consuming, ever expanding government cancer.

Those who cannot afford its costs must move...simple.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:54 AM
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I always laugh at the "outsider" tag applied by the coal-bots to the tree huggers.

The real "outsiders" are the coal companies who have been shipping their profits off WV coal, by the billions, to their homes in virginia and new york for the past 150 years.

I guess it's ok to be an "outsider" and take all the value out of WV, as long as you throw a few truck drivers some jobs, eh?
Coal-bots?
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:18 AM
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Coal-bots?
Yes, coal-bots.

Those who think coal mining, because it gives a pittance of it's economic value to WV (and only then, when forced to - see US Steel v. Helton), should be protected at all costs, to the detriment of everything and everyone else.
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The unfortunate collateral damage will be to the great group of people who cannot afford over $100 per week for their electric service.

I was a member of our county planning commission for over 5 years.
An assistant to Mr. Moneyhand, in one meeting I will never forget, answered a question of heavy taxation on the poor this way.

"If they cannot carry the costs of the 'Revenue Stream, they will have to move."

so the answer to this question is before us...The Revenue Stream must be large, flowing and protected by the elete, from the Rabble. But...but...these rabble pay for this Revenue Stream...

The Revenue Stream, btw, is a visual interpetation of green tax money flowing to the ever using, ever encompassing, ever consuming, ever expanding government cancer.
Those who cannot afford its costs must move...simple.

The end result of these 'environmental' policies as you say will be much
higher costs of essentials to those that can least afford it. I don't know if the rich will get richer because of these carbonphobic policies but you can bet that the poor will be poorer. And colder. But on the other hand some good could come from this. It could bring families closer together. As in huddled around a little gas heater with the lights off telling stories. And a character builder! Just surviving those government imposed hardships will make you a tougher more self-sufficient person.
Those dang dems were really doing the poor a favor!!
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