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Old 07-21-2009, 12:21 AM
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When Rocky came to office, Wv was reeling in it's own personal Depression (1982). Jobs were non existant and the hope of getting one drove people to the voting booths.

Wv had NO highways because of political neglect, policical greed, and political corruption. Those highways opened up industry...the water and sewage projects that had never been considered were a way to establish business and manufacture....

It's easy to call this pork...ever been to Dallas?
That's where the pork is..in that new 2nd outer beltway that cost 22 billion dollars...those Texans don't need that road for a 100 mile commute into the 'Big City, do they?

If we had not had Senator Bryd's service to us, our existence would have remained the same...on an equal footing to Puerto Rico. That's where is was before...

He has been the only one...consider the convicted (and un-convicted) servants who helped an entire pension fund of 179 million dollars disapear..set back our education system about 25 years...
We are only just now recovering from that robbery.

Somehow, the money that is kept in Wv ends up in Swiss bank accounts...political sleight of hand.

Obama and his Chicago friends make our poor hillbilly crooks look like penniless vagabonds.

I could not allow your mis-information to go unchallenged.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:37 AM
Location: Jefferson County
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I understand your point and don't deny that it has helped WV industry and individuals on a personal level to some degree.
My contention is with "the game". The system where money flows from business & individuals within states to the fed, then it is handed back out to the states (who have the reps that play the game the best and cry the loudest) and agree to the fed regs. This is why the fed has such control over what goes on within the states.
Public education for example is horrible and getting worse. Education does not work well when managed by politicians and fit to an industrial model. States should have absolute control over education with no Federal interference. (No offense intended to educators. I commend anyone who has or currently teaches.)
I also contend with the notion of "progress" so often touted in this generation. That having enough disposable income to have a tom tom next to the blackberry w/ instant access to the facebook in the lexus, somehow provides us in this current time with a better quality of life. Is it really? Are we really advanced or "better off"? Technological and industrial innovations have inarguably benefitted us. But the current typical life of the 21st century American is in my opinion a lower quality of life than many of the generations that came before us. A "poor" West Virginia without a job could quite possibly be much richer and happier than a "wealthy" suburbanite with a job.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:11 PM
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The 'Game is international...much, much bigger that paltry Wv.

Our elected officials have slush funds created in out-of-country businesses that were set up with our tax payer dollars...outside our laws and borders until now. (White-collar Crime Task Force is gathering the evidence in a big bog way)

'Public Education is a failure..want to ask a credible source?
Ask any teacher...they might hem/haw around a little, but they will agree we need a big fix...

We are also overwhelmed with 'buzz words that mean nothing...the solution is involvement, honesty and the will to turn things to a conservative solution...
No one is willing to do that...even the conservatives.

Here's an idea for solution...Put the kids to work in real jobs at 16...just like Australia did after the war.

They are having children, driving cars, and our schools are only a holding facility for them...
Let's put them to work...2 year college or trade...In the job force or a Vista Program at least by 18...

Lets get the tax money from them early...use that blackberry communicator for education on the job.

That 'Game Time they use could be transfered to a data processing field..for starters we could take over those 3 million call center jobs in India and make a lot of hearing impaired Americans happy.

Will never happen...any of this and any solution...it's to late!
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:40 AM
Location: Charleston, WV
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Jay's voting record in case you are interested:
Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:45 AM
Location: Charleston, WV
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BTW - last year (Jan 2008):

As the Senate takes up "debate" today over granting the President new warrantless eavesdropping powers and granting immunity to lawbreaking telecoms,........... Jay Rockefeller's unintentionally revealing comments - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) is predicting the Senate will grant retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies as Congress takes up reauthorization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). . .
"I think we will prevail," Rockefeller said on Wednesday, adding that he hoped the Senate will finish the bill by next week. The FISA legislation expires in February, and both President Bush and GOP congressional leaders have demanded new legislation be in place by that time.
"It's a pretty bad idea to appear cocky," Rockefeller noted. "I am not pessimistic."
Jay Rockefeller's unintentionally revealing comments - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:29 AM
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Ahh! Protecting AT$T and Veri$on from the lawsuits...can you believe we have the communication technology to monitor every single telephone conversation in the country?

Just following the English model...but those Poms have the cameras too. Perhaps, Orwellian does cover the description.

Rights of Privacy?

Swept under the Social-sh$t rug...but what have the peasants ever known anyway.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by vec101 View Post
Jay's voting record in case you are interested:
Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sonia Sotomayor, of New York, to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States

Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea

Opposing Views: OPINION: 9 Reasons to Reject Sotomayor for Supreme Court (http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/opinion-9-reasons-to-reject-sotomayor-for-supreme-court - broken link)
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Old 08-09-2009, 06:22 AM
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Sadly the understudies that would have followed her in the bench replacement processs were basically 4 Carl Marx clones without beards.

Did she say anything in the swearing in ceremony that might give some indication of upholding the constitution?

She is the shill who will take away the Right to Bear Arms.

She's so warm and fuzzy too.
Average person you would meet at the vegetable section of Krogers..or garage sale afficianado.

Too bad we don't have a law professor in this country qualified for this bench.

Perhaps, she can take Clarence Thomas's car to the wash for him.

Does anybody understand...this is the most important job in our entire country?
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Old 08-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Location: between east and west coast
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I really wish we could get rid of both political parties! They are too busy fighting each other and pandering for the support of whoever gives them the highest $$$$. One group is too far right,the other too far left (JMO).
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:03 AM
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Our two national political parties are really one political party. We swing with the pendelum.

The real party is the party that sends down the influence money for the vote.

In Wv, those lobby groups craft the legislation because our legislators can barely read.

To hold up as law, if our own people had to do it, would mean a bigger fiasco than we have.

The doctors bring their paper, the teachers bring their paper, the Unions,the gas companies, the bakers, the candlestick makers.

It's all a smoke screen...all of it.

They will do anything and say anything to keep their place 'to slop at the public trough.

I'm not into the International Gangster Groups, but things must be getting serious...the Tri-Lateral Commission is having a meeting soon.
The American Democrats must have gone too far with their economy snag...it got them the election and the seat in power to move the money, but it must be hurting some of the other countries on the planet.

The Peasants Revolt of NOT participating in the scheme must be sending up red flags to them.

Our time is reflective of another time: Germany in the 1520's.

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