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Old 12-12-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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They have the "ordinary" people split up between the two parties. These folks comprise a majority of the people in the country, but not a majority within either party. For that reason the party hacks can play them like ping pong balls.

The average American who happens to be Democrat is not a nazi-socialist wacko like the Dems we have serving in government. He is also not a fiscal conservative social liberal John McCain type like the Republicans we have in government.

The real problem is the wackos and the fiscal elitists agree on all the issues important to the average American. The problem is they disagree with those average Americans, but because there is no organized unity they have little influence. The wacks and fiscals use fringe issues in the national elections, ignoring the really important issues. That way, they insure that no matter which "party" wins, the political status quo is essentially maintained. Does anyone really believe free government health care is all that important to the average person? He is a lot more concerned with the economy, but the government does little to address that problem.
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Puerto Penasco, Mexico
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They have the "ordinary" people split up between the two parties. These folks comprise a majority of the people in the country, but not a majority within either party. For that reason the party hacks can play them like ping pong balls.

The average American who happens to be Democrat is not a nazi-socialist wacko like the Dems we have serving in government. He is also not a fiscal conservative social liberal John McCain type like the Republicans we have in government.

The real problem is the wackos and the fiscal elitists agree on all the issues important to the average American. The problem is they disagree with those average Americans, but because there is no organized unity they have little influence. The wacks and fiscals use fringe issues in the national elections, ignoring the really important issues. That way, they insure that no matter which "party" wins, the political status quo is essentially maintained. Does anyone really believe free government health care is all that important to the average person? He is a lot more concerned with the economy, but the government does little to address that problem.
Perfectly and correctly stated. Can't rep you 'cause I gotta "spread it around". Hope someone else can rep you.
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Corona Ca
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Not all Republicans in office are like John McCain either, nor is the average republican. He's actually very democratic which is why he ended up running for the republican party. Palin was to balance his democratic record. To me the only thing John McCain is conservative on is most the military issues. He's too far left of the conservatives and too far right for the progressives.
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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Funny, when I was a kid, John McCain would have been your "average Republican". What happened to the Republican party of Dewey, Eisenhower, Nixon and Ford? What was wrong with that? Why did it become like the John Birch Society, which most moderate Republicans of the 60's and 70's disdained as kooks?
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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Goldwater...now that's a name in the history books..."Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice.."

Cost him the election...

Dole...remember him? Had to make a living selling Viagara...

Hope Clinton takes that job...he's qualified.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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Did you like Dole? He was another real Republican like Nixon, and the others I mentioned.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:26 PM
 
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Goldwater would not have fit in with the current right wing slant of the party. He believed too much in individual freedom. He was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. He believed the government should stay out of our lives.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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Ford...Dole...Bush #41...they all fell out of the same bag...

the real problem with that time period was...Henry Kissinger..

We (our country) has felt his meddling to this very day....

I think George Mitchell was the last real Sec. of State for the country...idiots ever since...and this is a very important job...
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:35 PM
 
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What did Kissinger do that you don't care for?
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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Funny, when I was a kid, John McCain would have been your "average Republican". What happened to the Republican party of Dewey, Eisenhower, Nixon and Ford? What was wrong with that? Why did it become like the John Birch Society, which most moderate Republicans of the 60's and 70's disdained as kooks?
He wouldn't have been the average Republican. He would have been the average elitist whose group has long held sway in the Republican party. Most would have disagreed fundamentally with him lf important issues. They might still have voted for him, but only because they really didn't have any viable alternative.
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