Yorktown Heights, NY (Somers, Mahopac, Lakeland: neighborhood, buyers, new construction)

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Yorktown hit with 5 percent tax increase By Adriane Tillman
Vol. 41, Number 46 Issue of 11/14/07 Updated: 11/15/07
“The value of the town is not growing so taxes go up more,” Goldberg said.
Goldberg crafted the budget with Roker and department heads were consulted prior to creating the budget, according to Roker.
The town’s financial model projects the town’s tax increase for four years.


you must be delutional... where does it state that the median home price is over $500K.

Yah ok I'm promoting YH...
FOLKS COME LIVE IN BEAUTIFUL YH WHERE YOU WILL BE SURE TO PAY HIGHER TAX FOR DOG POO TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLANNED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WHERE THE VALUE OF HE TOWN DOESN NOT GROW SO TAXES HAVE TO CONTINUE GOING UP. SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE UP FOR ITS SHORTFALLS. WHY NOT YOU? WON'T YOU JOIN US?

LOL

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dma1250 stated
"The morratorium has nothing at all to do with management issues. It is about controlling and minimizing growth and preserving open spaces."



JUST TO CLARIFY... hes wrong here too. the moratorium has nothing to do with preserving open space (although a romantic idea) and everything to do with deficient infrastructure of for sewage treatment for the towns residents.

Here is concrete info from New York Times for yah.
Yorktown Sewer Moratorium - New York Times

[dma1250]

That's a different moratorium, you nut. That sewer moratorium is about not expanding sewers in the extremely small area covered by the water treatment plant. It has nothing to do with the town-wide development moratorium which was created while the town Comprehensive Plan was drafted and approved. Your mixing your apples and oranges. If you want to read about the moratorium try this:

Winter 2007

As I said, the town-wide moratorium is about controlling development and maintaining open space. The sewer issue effects the relatively few folks who live in the YH business hamlet. It is not an issue that effects the majority of residents--and it has nothing to do with the development moratorium.

I might point out that that article you linked to is from 1988. Since then the town has been building a new water treatment plant. And the sewer moratorium will soon be over.

As for the 5% tax hike, you may have noticed a real estate slump affecting most of the country. Take a look around: Chappaqua is about to get a 4.8% tax increase: Rockland County is about to get an 8% tax hike, and your beloved Puntam County? Today's Journal News has an article about taxes in 5 towns in your beloved Putnam County going up 6% to 8% next year--just to pay the bills.

If you're looking for a town that isn't facing tax hikes in the next few years, good luck. In Yorktown, at least we will getting a lot of concrete benefits from the increased taxes.

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I cant tell anymore from one morritorium over the next imposed in YH. Yup this is the infomus sewer morritorium since 1988. I knew full well that article is from 1988 as it is the original AND THE PROBLEM STILL EXISTS SINCE 1988 thats why it still pertains to this very discussion. Even you admit that the problem is still there but good try, sounds again liek the polititians with the use of the word soon. soon can be 1 year,2 ,5, 10, even 20 to some. if you have some collaborative proofthat this morratorium has been resolved. Let us se it. Would you like me to show you some articles from 2001 or even ones more recent? Just say the work and I'll link them for you since your info is based on your FEELINGS and are not based in reality or facts. so much so that you continue to do nothing but call names. I'm a nut? I don't think so. I just know the area very very well and as such have a problem with folks liek yourself who try and play up an area and say its more than it is. YH is nothing but OK in my book and the info all points to this. where is your info? why havn't you posted where your facts for median home price came from? Mine is very recent and is very clear as to where it stands today. Tomorrow on the other hand, it will probably be lower. How much lower no one really knows. However, the bargains you speak of in YH is because of all of the issues that I have made light of here. and they come from the very site periodical that you pointed us to. If you would like me to point to other articles from this periodical that difinitively illustrate the growing problem in your beloved YH. BTW, putnum is not beloved by me. what I said from the start since you brought about the point that YH is such a great bargain, even stating that it is "reletively cheap", is that you can get a bargain in Putnum.

Please let me know how much of YH you wish me to expose here for all to see.

xoxoxoxo

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here is info from the very article that you posted. Yes I do read unlike you... can you tell me where it states in your article that this current moratorium that you speak of was created for the sole purpose for creating/preserving open space is indicated? I see no such mention. instead it talks about this particular moratorium is set in place to alleviate traffic congestion and creating arterial connections from/to nearby towns. they plan on doing this by connecting three major arteries. This too will prove to be close to impossible without clearing some land for its use. Not just imposing a moratorium. and all this does NOT preserve open space sir/mam.

Below is just a small section from YOUR article you linked above. (the following is from the APA article dated Winter 2007)
Regional solutions are needed to help solve Yorktown's traffic issues, according to the planning director. A three-year study — a joint effort between Yorktown, Cortlandt, Peekskill, and the county, state, and federal governments — contains a variety of recommendations that, if funded, could divert traffic from Yorktown by connecting two parkways and eliminate choke points on two heavily traveled east-west roads.
While the study was under way, Yorktown began an update of its comprehensive plan. "The town enacted a building moratorium during that time," says Klaus. "Applicants could still go through the planning process, at least up to the public hearing, with the understanding that they did so at their own peril since the land use might change," he says.
The town ended the moratorium when it adopted the new comprehensive plan. "About that time, there was a slowdown in the housing market and it's not yet picked up," Klaus says.

where in that article does it state that a moratorium is placed on YH for the sole purpose of creating/preserving open space? Try again

[dma1250]

As I said from the start, the moratorium and comprehensive plan were about controlling growth and creating and preserving open space. It was about planning for the future and managing development. All the things you keep saying the town isn't doing. I never said it had any one sole purpose. Unlike many neighboring towns, Yorktown is confronting things like McMansions and traffic.

Please don't pretend that price declines in YH are about problems in the town. Prices in YH have declined much less than they have in many neighboring towns. And they increased more than they did in other towns--as shown in the chart I linked to days ago. Price declines have occurred throughout the region. So far, YH has done far better in holding it's value than many other towns in northern Westchester.

You've spent the better part of your week researching and ranting and still you have not said or shown anything to suggest that YH is not an excellent bargain compared to other towns in the area.

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The article he links to makes no mention about open space preservation. Instead it talks about the opposite "development". The developement of traffic corridors that are deficient in YH. Oh another example of severe infrastructure issues that the twon isfacing today. I thought that I should also share the funniest part of the info provided by the poster above. he links an article on traffic proposal by the APA which stands for the american planning association and if you take a moment to read what they are about here you will see that thier focus is on development of urban, suburban, regional, and rural planning. notice that there is no mention that thier goal is to the preservation of open land. Although I'm sure that is on the frontal lobe of most planners in this new century. It has to be with the implementation of sustainable living standards. No DUH! everyone is talking like this. Its areas that have implemented this into a master plan that are coming out on top today. not those that have to modify the "comprehensive plan" to fix shortfals in the original "master plan".

How many more valid points shall I bring to light?

Oh and actually it took me about a minute or so to read your article on traffic issues of YH and about the same minute in linking to the info that I provided. realy its not a problem at all. its actually fun and easy proving your points wrong. you set yourself up fopr those and thats because the info from you come from you fellings and emotions. which is understandable that ou live there and own a home in the town. Heck many people speak this way of thier towns and even thier very homes over the past few years.

However, many of those people were delusional also

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Please enlighten us by explaining how a traffic issue and the morritorium set up for that in any way creates and preserves open space??? and how does connecting arterial traffic pathways controle growth...??? Oh boy, I know you have an answer for this one as you have an answer for everything as it pertains to YH. I just can't wait to hear it as I'm sure it won't make any sense and not be relevant to the disscussion at hand. I see a pattern developing. the pattern of illusion. oops I meant delusion. there is no magic here.

I wonder what name I'll be called next? I think he must be some sort of troll...

[dma1250]

House shopping, where to start? First off, of course I read the article I linked to prior to posting it. Had there been anything even remotely negative in it I would have pointed that out when I posted it. But there wasn't. You seem to think that highlighting things in red makes them bad.

"The article he links to makes no mention about open space preservation. Instead it talks about the opposite "development." Controlling development and preserving open space go hand in hand. Can't have one without the other. The comprehensive paln limits the size and number of developments allowed, thus preserving open space. Seems pretty obvious to me. Yorktown is one of the few town in the area to be dealing with the issue. Most towns simply rely on large land owners to keep space undeveloped. Not only did Yorktown create the comprehensive plan, but it did so in an open and democratic manner--every resident got a detailed questionaire about the paln and there was a series of at least 20 public forums. I haven't heard of any other towns dealing with these issues so well.

"The developement of traffic corridors that are deficient in YH." YH has no traffic issue at all. The traffic issue is in northern Yorktown on Route 6 which functions as the primary route from Peekskill through northern Westchester. Traffic in YH is far mellower than in the majority of towns anywhere in the county. Route 6 does indeed have a traffic problem--which runs through Cortland, Yorktown, and Mahopac.

"How many more valid points shall I bring to light?" Let me get this right. You've 'brought to light' that northern Yorktown has a traffic issue, that there is going to be a moderate tax hike (far smaller than in most towns), and that because YH is in the Croton Watershed it had to work with NY state and NYC DEC to build a new treatment plant to update the sewer that serves a handful of residents. To which I say, good luck finding a town in Westchester with no traffic and where taxes never go up. As for the sewer, you'll find the same issue in any town in the watershed--which is to say pretty much all of northern Westchester. Are these the big problems that are supposed to be besseting YH?

"its actually fun and easy proving your points wrong." Yet again, you have not proven a single one of my points wrong. You keep raising things as if they were issues and I keep proving that they're not. I am glad you are enjoying yourself, but all you've proven (to me at least--can't speak for others) is that you're desperate to prove something but can't find anything bad.

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Originally Posted by dma1250

That's a different moratorium, you nut. That sewer moratorium is about not expanding sewers in the extremely small area covered by the water treatment plant. It has nothing to do with the town-wide development moratorium which was created while the town Comprehensive Plan was drafted and approved. Your mixing your apples and oranges. If you want to read about the moratorium try this:

Winter 2007

As I said, the town-wide moratorium is about controlling development and maintaining open space.

this has been really amusing... Really. However, you avoided my question and you are focusing on the irrelivant.

YOU not I posted the article above. and you say that "the town-wide moratorium is about controlling development and maintaining open space". where do you see this? where does it state this? am I the nut? as an educator you must have issues with reading comprehension. how does ATTEMPTING to provide arterial traffic connections provide open space. koo-koo are you there?

you bring no value to your statements. I say again, where does it state anywhere that there is even a focus on preserving open space? What it said is that there aree traffc issues and you try and split Y/YH. Its like spliting Yonkers with south yonkers. Give me a break. different geographies will bring the whole down or up. So yorktown bringsdown YH. you cant separate yourself from your shortfals. you can try and improve it but that is not the case here.

again the poster/troll does not offer any real information but rather spews mis-information, venom and vitrol . all because he is trying to sell his home but cant so he is still delusional that the price is far below what HE feels its worth. All delusions. This has been fun but I got to get back to work. I don't have time for delusional trolls. What isn't a delusion is that I'll be buying your home next year at a rock bottom price.

do us a favor hold up two fingers in front of your face and tell us how may fingers you see... You're right three. Good boy!

still where does it state that themedian home price in YH is $550k? where does it state that there is any morratorium that is set up for the preservation of open space? No not dog POO. where does it state that taxes are comperable to other towns? or even increasing at the same rate? all of which are points made by the troll and non ofwhich have been justified. He links to one article above and makes an obsured statement that this article is about preservation of open space. Delusional I tell you! delusional. Did I say that you have four fingers up in front of your face hey read post #67 perhaps sooner or later you might comprehend. what do you educate? Do you teach in YH? oh boy!