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Old 03-15-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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The city is proposing a zoning change for the Fleetwood section to allow multifamily buildings by special permit in the downtown business district.

This sets the precedent for allowing multifamily anywhere in the city, including single family areas. It continues the council's new policy of overriding existing zoning on a piecemeal basis, effectively rendering the current zoning code meaningless and creating a free for all for developers.

There is a public hearing at 7pm on Tuesday, March 25 at City Hall, 1 Roosevelt Sq., City Council chambers, 2nd floor. Each speaker is allowed 4 minutes. No advance registration is required to speak.

The city's website is at www.cmvny.com
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:13 AM
 
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The DB zoning district represents a small part of Fleetwood. It would be good to have apartment buildings on Grand Street and Broad Street. The higher density the better. And Mount Vernon needs ANY development.

I don't understand why this is a problem.
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Mt. Vernon, NY
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The DB zoning district represents a small part of Fleetwood. It would be good to have apartment buildings on Grand Street and Broad Street. The higher density the better. And Mount Vernon needs ANY development.

I don't understand why this is a problem.
More non-tax paying residents who will be using our city services.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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MV is already among the most densely populated cities in the state and can't adequately provide city services to the current population.

A 10 story, 300 unit luxury building is proposed for the site currently occupied by Metro Fresh on Broad St. Imagine what happens to the traffic at that intersection and entry to the Cross County when that building is fully occupied. The type of urban density that is being planned for the city requires a mass transit system, which we lack.

Beyond the density issue is the abandonment of the zoning code itself. The city council can drop a project anywhere they choose, destroying a neighborhood's character and property values.
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Old 03-15-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Superior, Wisconsin
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MV is already among the most densely populated cities in the state and can't adequately provide city services to the current population.

A 10 story, 300 unit luxury building is proposed for the site currently occupied by Metro Fresh on Broad St. Imagine what happens to the traffic at that intersection and entry to the Cross County when that building is fully occupied. The type of urban density that is being planned for the city requires a mass transit system, which we lack.

Beyond the density issue is the abandonment of the zoning code itself. The city council can drop a project anywhere they choose, destroying a neighborhood's character and property values.
That area is certainly congested enough as it is. The exit and entrance ramps at exit 7 on the Cross County are so short that the exiting traffic backs up, sometimes for half a mile, onto the parkway.

I'm no advocate at all for bigger government, but Mount Vernon is a city of 70,000 with a transit system built for a city half its size. It has only 3 Metro-North stations, all of which are far from each other and only have service every 30 minutes, and even less frequently on weekends. Service is so sparse on the Westchester bus system that it can take over 45 minutes just to connect from one bus line to another. Not to mention that there are no late-night options at all.
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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MV is already among the most densely populated cities in the state and can't adequately provide city services to the current population.

A 10 story, 300 unit luxury building is proposed for the site currently occupied by Metro Fresh on Broad St. Imagine what happens to the traffic at that intersection and entry to the Cross County when that building is fully occupied. The type of urban density that is being planned for the city requires a mass transit system, which we lack.

Beyond the density issue is the abandonment of the zoning code itself. The city council can drop a project anywhere they choose, destroying a neighborhood's character and property values.
And what exactly will happen to the traffic? People will pay a premium for this location because they can walk to the Fleetwood Station. And the others that drive do not all go to and come back from work at the same time. And 300 apartments (500 middle-class and upper middle class residents) will be a boon for the local businesses. I like this idea.

And they cannot drop a project wherever they choose. This is a change in the existing DB (DOWNTOWN BUSINESS) district. If you live on a block lined with single-family houses, you are not in the DB district so you have nothing to worry about.
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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More non-tax paying residents who will be using our city services.
This would be a high-end project with big rents. Let's not get ridiculous.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:40 PM
 
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Agree with rubygreta. If anything these initiatives may just be the sliver that gets MV out of its funk. You can't afford to build better mass transit without the density to spread its costs. They go hand in hand. The problem here is that these efforts may be too late depending on how much new housing NYC decides to introduce into the market. As of now the new mayor seems oblivious to the problem so MV might just find an opening.
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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This would be a high-end project with big rents. Let's not get ridiculous.

The question of taxes depends not on the rents but on whether this is a PILOTS project (payments in lieu of taxes) aka tax waiver. Many developments in MV have PILOTS, another reason the rest of us pay so much.

Another phenomenon in MV development is that projects planned as 'market rate' quickly devolve into something less desirable if the units can't be rented at 'luxury' prices.
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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And what exactly will happen to the traffic? People will pay a premium for this location because they can walk to the Fleetwood Station. And the others that drive do not all go to and come back from work at the same time. And 300 apartments (500 middle-class and upper middle class residents) will be a boon for the local businesses. I like this idea.

And they cannot drop a project wherever they choose. This is a change in the existing DB (DOWNTOWN BUSINESS) district. If you live on a block lined with single-family houses, you are not in the DB district so you have nothing to worry about.


Tell that to the people who lost the Cedar St. parking lot battle and saw all the trees cut down and a parking lot constructed on their quiet single family block.

Once the city designates the DB area as eligible for special permit zoning, they will find other areas to do the same. This is their intention.
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