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Old 05-16-2016, 07:52 AM
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The article in the daily news today about the Section 8 changes is quite different from the NY Post one. Brooklyn as a whole for a start, doesn't count as a poor urban area - only parts of it are. Which isn't surprising considering the rental process in Brooklyn (e.g. Park Slope, Carroll gardens, Williamsburg) make suburban rental prices look like an amazing bargain. The HUD is planning to increase voucher amounts by zip code, but that means that, for example, the 11211 zip code in Williamsburg will get a much higher voucher value than those in the 11212 zip in Brownsville. What a difference a digit makes.

That people will leave the city for the suburban hypothesis is all pure speculation, and not likely given how most city folk view the suburbs as some soulless wasteland made by the devil. What they may have the chance to do is now get housing in neighborhoods they grew up in in the city but whose rents have exploded due to gentrification etc.
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Old 05-16-2016, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rubygreta View Post
No, but he's bastardizing it. There was never the intent to give poor people the right to live in high-end rental apartment buildings in higher-income communities. A total farce.
Obama is doing this -- this is one of his policies? I am actually asking because I didn't know he was doing this? Has he been working on it or this is a new thing?
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:51 PM
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Step back for a minute.

Section 8, as I recall, was a counter-measure to having the government build, subsidize and maintain what used to be called 'project housing'. Huge numbers of poor people were crammed together in deteriorating conditions. The government paid a lot for that failure. Millions, even. Warehousing people in poverty did nothing to break the cycle.

With luck, those Section 8 families which will now be spread around in different areas, will 'get with the program' so to speak. They'll see families where dad goes to work and, in some cases, so does mom. They will see families and make friends who value education and hard work. Their expectations will rise as will our expectations of those benefitting from our largesse.

It's an intractable problem and there isn't any one solution; however, creating whole pockets of poverty as opposed to spreading them thinly has not worked and cost millions. This may be one experiment worth trying.
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