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Old 08-16-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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but it also does not factor into the plus of the NYC like the easy commute and better amenities.
Queens does not have better amenities. The city as a whole does have individual good amenities but they are spread out, but Queens, while being crowded, has pretty poor library and sports facilities, no coastal parks (in fact beat-up rundown parks in general) and the schools which while having good academics have pretty lame facilities. Now if you are talking about cultural institutions and events then yes, the city surely does beat the rest. But not amenities. Also Queens has got better ethnic restaurants for sure. Excellent ones.


As for the commute - a southern Westchester one-seat ride on MNRR is pretty hard to beat in terms of a civilized commute quality. The LIRR comes in second place to it by far - that's widely acknowledged - and the ****-stinky, noisy subway doesn't compare at all.
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Queens of course offers much better amenities than the burbs. A lot of LI people come to queens to eat, shop and socialize. Of course, you won't feel this if you live in Westchester.


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Queens does not have better amenities. The city as a whole does have individual good amenities but they are spread out, but Queens, while being crowded, has pretty poor library and sports facilities, no coastal parks (in fact beat-up rundown parks in general) and the schools which while having good academics have pretty lame facilities. Now if you are talking about cultural institutions and events then yes, the city surely does beat the rest. But not amenities. Also Queens has got better ethnic restaurants for sure. Excellent ones.


As for the commute - a southern Westchester one-seat ride on MNRR is pretty hard to beat in terms of a civilized commute quality. The LIRR comes in second place to it by far - that's widely acknowledged - and the ****-stinky, noisy subway doesn't compare at all.
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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when people talk about commute, they talk about subways, not rails. Those are different animals. Rails are expensive, less frequent, and not 24/7, and you need to drive to rail stations

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Queens does not have better amenities. The city as a whole does have individual good amenities but they are spread out, but Queens, while being crowded, has pretty poor library and sports facilities, no coastal parks (in fact beat-up rundown parks in general) and the schools which while having good academics have pretty lame facilities. Now if you are talking about cultural institutions and events then yes, the city surely does beat the rest. But not amenities. Also Queens has got better ethnic restaurants for sure. Excellent ones.


As for the commute - a southern Westchester one-seat ride on MNRR is pretty hard to beat in terms of a civilized commute quality. The LIRR comes in second place to it by far - that's widely acknowledged - and the ****-stinky, noisy subway doesn't compare at all.
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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when people talk about commute, they talk about subways, not rails. Those are different animals. Rails are expensive, less frequent, and not 24/7, and you need to drive to rail stations
But wasn't your (questionable) argument in this very thread that when something's more expensive, it's somehow "more desirable"? (your words)

And lots of people walk to rail stations, wrong again.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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Some of the beautiful amenities on offer in Queens.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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when people talk about commute, they talk about subways, not rails. Those are different animals. Rails are expensive, less frequent, and not 24/7, and you need to drive to rail stations
Ok is English your first language?


So now, on top of your previous assertion that LIRR was better than MNRR you are saying commuting means subway not rails.


Your level of don't-know-what-you-are-talking-about just jumped up to 10 out of 10.


Some drive to railroad some walk. I walk, and have always done. There are many, many homes within 10 -12 minutes of many railroad stations - in lower Westchester at least. No different from a 10-12 minute walk to a subway.
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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no one in their right mind would think rail offers the same level of convenience as the subway. Maybe rails work out for you, but not for everyone. You can see the rent difference for a home next to the subway and a home next to the rail station.

i just dont get why Westchester dwellers want to justify their high tax by claiming the quality of life there is higher. It is just not. it is no different than other burbs in LI or in NJ

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Ok is English your first language?


So now, on top of your previous assertion that LIRR was better than MNRR you are saying commuting means subway not rails.


Your level of don't-know-what-you-are-talking-about just jumped up to 10 out of 10.


Some drive to railroad some walk. I walk, and have always done. There are many, many homes within 10 -12 minutes of many railroad stations - in lower Westchester at least. No different from a 10-12 minute walk to a subway.
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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You can see the rent difference for a home next to the subway and a home next to the rail station.
Your argument is silly. A house next to a subway station somewhere in the south BX may cost a fraction of a house 5 miles away from the nearest metro-north station in Westchester. Such comparisons are meaningless. For proper comparison, you need to look at equidistant properties from the destination of interest. For example, FH is 10 miles away from midtown and it takes about 1/2 hour, if you're lucky, to get from FH to Midtown using express 'E' train. Scarsdale is about twice as far, i.e. 20 miles away, but it also takes 1/2 hour to get to midtown from there. So, Scarsdale provides a more efficient commute since it is twice as far away but it takes the same amount of time to commute to midtown, albeit the commute from Scarsdale is more expensive. But, the expense is justified because the commute on metro north is much more civilized and predictable.

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Old 08-16-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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why don't think simply look at the price per square foot in FH vs Westchester?
FH is twice more expensive. and you think all these people who pay a premium are idiots?

For the commuting, subway can get your anywhere in manhattan. Rail can only get you to grand central.you do realize the difference, right?

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Your argument is silly. A house next to a subway station somewhere in the south BX may cost a fraction of a house 5 miles away from the nearest metro-north station in Westchester. Such comparisons are meaningless. For proper comparison, you need to look at equidistant properties from the destination of interest. For example, FH is 10 miles away from midtown and it takes about 1/2 hour, if you're lucky, to get from FH to Midtown using express 'E' train. Scarsdale is about twice as far, i.e. 20 miles away, but it also takes 1/2 hour to get to midtown from there. So, Scarsdale provides a more efficient commute since it is twice as far away but it takes the same amount of time to commute to midtown, albeit it is more expensive. But, the expense is justified because the commute on metro north is much more civilized and predictable.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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why don't think simply look at the price per square foot in FH vs Westchester?
FH is twice more expensive. and you think all these people who pay a premium are idiots?
I grew up in FH and have lived there most of my life. I don't think the ppl. who pay a premium there are idiots, but I honestly can't explain the current property valuations there from a rational standpoint.

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