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Old 07-23-2008, 08:19 PM
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Anyway, my guess is, he was in cahoots with various people (bankers? buyers?) in schemes to buy and sell at inflated prices and pocket the difference.
Yeah, classic greedy "flip". Sad that low-life scum can still get away with these, it was a flip scheme that triggered the S&L crash in the 80's, and taxpayers are still footing the bill for that one...
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:56 PM
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This looks like it could be similar to the scheme that was carried out at the Village of Penland development in Mitchell County, NC. ($120,000,000 fraud that was shut down by the NC Attorney General.) The banks have many millions extended on the Rabuffo development in Jackson County...and I would not want to be in their shoes. I have posted several stories on this at my blog and will be posting anything else that comes across my desk. Keep an eye on this one. It should get very interesting before it's all over.
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:13 AM
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nice story // look a bit deeper and think out of the box // property worth and the money SUPPOSED to have paid for It ???? .
sounds to me as a way to wash money. would YOU pay 6 times the value for something// and knowing it from the start.
There is a third party (person) some where in these transaction. cooking the books.

value paid / less -
less true value =
leaves a negitive value lost in transaction hmmmmmmmmm
I smell a coffee can buried in the ground
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:23 AM
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I have been reading the crossroads, on the net for the last 10 mo , I see some of the stories, and there seems to be an effort to move Cashers NC area into a mode of advanced development.
from a quaint little sleepy hamlet to a majior development area, there goes the nebiourhood .
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:27 AM
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So where are the Feds? Whose watching the store? He's laundering money AND scamming the banks...
And yes, WNC does need REAL zoning now. Too many people doing too many stupid things to the land. Zoning won't realy affect the locals, just scum like this guy and his associates.
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This looks like it could be similar to the scheme that was carried out at the Village of Penland development in Mitchell County, NC. ($120,000,000 fraud that was shut down by the NC Attorney General.) The banks have many millions extended on the Rabuffo development in Jackson County...and I would not want to be in their shoes. I have posted several stories on this at my blog and will be posting anything else that comes across my desk. Keep an eye on this one. It should get very interesting before it's all over.
U.S. charges pair in mountain real estate scam | BlueRidgeNow.com | Times-News Online | Hendersonville, NC
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:44 PM
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Read the story below about SunBank foreclosing on 14 properties in the development and selling them at public auction. In many cases the borrower, who bought the property sight unseen at grossly inflated provces, had a close business relationship with the developer. This is a classic scam house of cards getting ready to crumble. The Feds are on the trail to be certain given all the publicity.

Bank: Property owners lied to get hefty N.C. loans
By Lucy Morgan, For the Chronicle
[SIZE=-2]Posted: Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 - 09:41:01 am EDT[/SIZE]


Last week, SunTrust officials accused 14 property owners in a North Carolina real estate development of falsifying their income when they obtained mortgages totaling more than $20 million.

SunTrust Mortgage Vice President Cary L. Mudge said in affidavits that the 14 borrowers inflated their monthly income, lied about their job title or falsely claimed employment when they really were retired. Some borrowers had joint bank accounts with Domenic Rabuffo, a Florida developer who went to federal prison in 1994 for a $49 million New York mortgage fraud.

The bank affidavits, added to the foreclosure suits filed in Jackson County, note that each of the borrowers signed a certificate required by federal law acknowledging that it is a criminal act to provide false information on a mortgage loan application. Anyone convicted of violating the law can be sentenced to 30 years in prison and fined up to $1 million.

Bank attorney Robert K. Imperial of Raleigh said he could not answer questions about the allegations and would not say whether bank officials have asked law enforcement to investigate. He also declined to answer questions about 10 other SunTrust loans outstanding in the same development.




All of the loans involve lots in Blue Ridge Mountain Estates, a development on Big Ridge, a remote mountain community about 10 miles north of Cashiers. The area is a haven for Florida retirees who escape the summer heat.

Despite a huge downturn in the real estate market, Rabuffo is building huge luxury homes sandwiched on 1-acre lots. He acquired the land, mostly in the name of his ex-wife, Mae. Some of the buyers never laid eyes on the property and say they bought it after hearing about the project from Rabuffo at dinner meetings in the Tampa Bay area.

The 14 borrowers, nine from Florida, five from Pennsylvania, each borrowed $1.5 million to finance construction of houses in the development. Altogether the 14 borrowers owe a total of $8.5 million, money distributed by SunTrust for construction.

Jackson County Superior Court Clerk Ann Melton has approved the sale of the lots at public auction.

John Pavey, a Sylva attorney who has handled most of the paperwork for Rabuffo, represented 13 of the lot owners at a hearing before Milton Monday. Pavey said he plans to appeal the decision.

Pavey said the Suntrust allegations are untrue and there is no debt to be paid at this time. "The fact that they can't verify the income, doesn't mean they don't make it," he said.

Asked about the foreclosure actions last month, Rabuffo said SunTrust is just trying to get rid of loans where borrowers owe more than the property is worth in a depressed market.

(Editor's note: Lucy Morgan is a semi-retired, Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter for the St. Petersburg Times. She is a part-year resident of the Cashiers Valley area. The original version of this story ran in the St. Petersburg Times, August 8, 2008. Researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report. Lucy Morgan can be reached at lmorgan@sptimes.com.)
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Old 08-15-2008, 01:04 PM
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I heard something on the evening news last night, while I was making dinner. i caught the last part and they were saying Big Ridge, and SunTrust foreclosing on falsified mortgages. I THOUGHT it was the same story. Checked it today. Excellent!

Good riddance, scammers!!! Good job by our steadfast City-Data people to bring this to everyone's attention. I will now add a thumbs up to your credentials!
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:26 AM
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...it's up to states where the real estate bubble has already burst to pick up the slack. Guess the AC-T likes to keep that real estate ad revenue flowing.

Florida man's mountain deals in N.C. are a mystery - St. Petersburg Times

His lowlife backround and lack of honesty in life qualifies him to be a politician
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:33 PM
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This kind of thing isn't new. Developers and the Floridians that are flooding in to our mountains are destroying it one mountain at a time. Something should be done before it's all gone.
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