Boeing laying off 4500 only the beginning. (Wichita: leases, homes, buy)

[lawnorder]

Its like Upton Sinclair said, It's hard to get a man to understand something if his job depends on him not understanding it. I have a relative who works a one of the local hospitals and said they are on hiring freeze. As the city and all of the USA continues to slide into the abyss, We need to quit buying, We can not spend our way out of this. We have the idea that we can always go down the street and find a job, that everything will just keep going. Well we are blowing through the 77 recession. Things are going to get worse before they get better. California may give IOUs instead of tax refunds. Yes I know they have asked for a lot of it. But this is not the time to point fingers at who did not do what to keep the ship from hitting the ice berg. We hit it and are taking on water. We need to figure out how to work the life boats. There are those who do not want to see what is going on and are dancing to the band, and others that want to point fingers. The USA that comes out of this may be better but it most certainly will not be the same one we have known for the last 50 years.

[KevK]

We are hiring here in GA. Of course you have to move here but you can apply, come here and then go back to Kansas when things get better there.
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[Morphous01]

Originally Posted by hindsight2020

He/she did state it is the age old gun/butter issue, so I'll give credit on that. You'll never convince a government contractor that any contract that keeps him employed is unnecessary, after all his livelihood, never mind the livelihood of the Servicemember (which he only says he cares for because he gets paid rather well to believe that), depends on it. It's a waste of time to argue the importance of a particular job when the people arguing it have different stakes on it, from an employment perspective.

This is a good post, the problem is explained crystal clear as far as cutting government spending. Unfortunately this is a problem that has slowly grown over time. If you go back hundreds of years ago the idea of joining a "military force" was entirely different concept.


The concept was different because the men all lived within there community's, used there own skills to make a living , lived with there family's all while the "military force" they belonged to was on the side or on the back burner; sort of speak. More or less, when they were needed, they were all called into action.


Fast forward today, we have made careers out of waging war which is why soldiers can now be EASILY controlled and why soldiers have a hard time transferring into civilian life because, for the most part, they have little or no skills other then warfare. The way a young man sees the military today or joining the military because you have nothing else to do with you life did not end up this way by happenstance, the powers that be have been planning it this way long before all of your great, great, grand parents were born.

[drjones96]

Originally Posted by athfo

Found it for you:

Boeing's commercial division to lay off 4,500 | Wichita Business - Kansas Business | Kansas.com (http://www.kansas.com/business/story/657925.html - broken link)

From the article:

They are currently employing nearly about 160,000 people globally. Laying off 4,500 people would be approximately 3% of their total workforce.

Boeing employs roughly 3000 people in Kansas according to their employment charts on their company website. Lets make the lame assumption that they laid off 3% of their employees here in Kansas. 3000 X 0.03 = 90. Losing one job due to a head count reduction is a shame. Losing 90 is 90 times worse. But in the grand scheme of things that's not a catastrophe. They may even be able to make their way on down to Spirit and get a job.

Lets assume the 3% factor is valid company wide. The Washington cuts where they're employing 76,000 could be expected to be nearly 2300.

...800 in Cali
...450 in Missouri
...

Boeing: Boeing Employment Numbers

[lawnorder]

Its only the beginning, not the end. This is the end of the beginning not the beginning of the end, and this is where you fall down on your logic. If you think we are on the mend you are severely mentally challenged.

[drjones96]

Originally Posted by lawnorder

Its only the beginning, not the end. This is the end of the beginning not the beginning of the end, and this is where you fall down on your logic. If you think we are on the mend you are severely mentally challenged.

If you are directing this statement towards me you need to take a look in the mirror to review your own mental state.

I said nothing about this being the end all be all of layoffs. I only gave stats about this particular layoff.

My money is actually on them pulling out of the Wichita facility all together after they no longer have the work on the tankers. Since it's military related as long as they have sufficient charge numbers to work on something here they will stay. If they run short on enough funding to remain here they're gone. You can bet on it. The Boeing employment here has a lot less to do with the economy simply because they are focused on military work. However, they may use the troubled economy as an excuse to shed some dead weight but I'm telling you they don't have to do it as long as there is enough money coming in from the military contracts to justify the number of people they have on staff.

[drjones96]

And btw...my own company is looking at cutting costs of employment anywhere from 10% to 15%. That doesn't necessarily mean they are laying off 10-15% of the workforce. They ARE doing some layoffs but they are also looking at retaining as many people as possible and cutting 25% of the hours on some of the union folks.

[jojothemonkeyboynowandfor]

Circut city gone belly up for ever. Another business gone. Costing 30,000 job's nation wide. Nothing will be left unefected by the coming storm.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by jojothemonkeyboynowandfor

Circut city gone belly up for ever. Another business gone. Costing 30,000 job's nation wide. Nothing will be left unefected by the coming storm.

Circuit City sucked anyway. I hate to see anybody lose a job but to them I would say good riddance. They absolutely sucked at customer service. I have got better service at Wal*Mart!

[averagejoe76]

Originally Posted by lawnorder

Its only the beginning, not the end. This is the end of the beginning not the beginning of the end, and this is where you fall down on your logic. If you think we are on the mend you are severely mentally challenged.

Thats rude and out of order...maybe you should be posting your..
Gloom & doom stuff in the Finance forum.