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View Poll Results: Scott Walker or Tom Barrett?
Scott Walker 69 60.00%
Tom Barrett 46 40.00%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 06-03-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Ignoring scripture or religious text, how could anyone believe justice is served by the murder of the child for the crime of the father.
Because it is the woman's body and the fetus is merely an extension of it. And how is it even a child at that point? It is no more a child than a cell of my body is a human.
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Unread 06-03-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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Or, even worse, the secondary rape of the woman as the technician proceeds to rip the child in her womb limb from limb.
Do you really think graphic images are going to dissuade a logical person?
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Unread 06-03-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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How about this, unlike a cell in your body, the baby immediately upon conception is a genetically unique being. Therefore it is impossible to consider it just an extension of the mother. You'd be better served if you used obama's excuse of it just being a parasite attacking the mother. Either way, you have no logical argument. As for the image, it's hard to look at those hands and not realize this is a human being. That picture was at 10 weeks into the pregnancy.

A politician who can be trusted to protect the least among us - the unborn! - can be trusted with with leadership. One who sees no harm in killing a child should never be trusted. I invite you to listen to a talk by Jim Martignoni at this link.
http://download.biblechristiansociet...tler_right.mp3
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Unread 06-03-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Hayward, CA
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Having followed a lot that has gone on in your state concerning Scott Walker, I frankly don't comprehend how anyone could vote for Tom Barrett given Barrett's shady history. That's just plain irrational.

This recall at large is bizarre to say the least. At least when we had a recall in California, we had a good reason and massive bipartisan support. Generally you recall an office holder when they're incompetent or commit some unconscionable act.
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Unread 06-04-2012, 06:53 AM
 
Location: The house on the hill
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I wish that the 64 million that has been spent on this recall election could have been spent on our schools and to help the WI economy. It seems like such a waste.
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Unread 06-04-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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You forgot something in your logical eloquence.....not to mention there are actually plentiful jobs in rtw states and the average cost of living is tens of thousands of dollars less per year.
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While I do not give a damn about Tom Barrett, what about Scott Walker? He opposes unions because they are a thorn in the side of his corporate pals. Do you really want to become a 'right-to-work' state where workers have practically no rights and no bargaining power against the abuses of employers? Keep in mind that in RTW states, the average pay is $3 less.
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Unread 06-04-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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While I do not give a damn about Tom Barrett, what about Scott Walker? He opposes unions because they are a thorn in the side of his corporate pals. Do you really want to become a 'right-to-work' state where workers have practically no rights and no bargaining power against the abuses of employers? Keep in mind that in RTW states, the average pay is $3 less.

That old time rhetoric is exactly why Barrett, Obamster and others leftist running in swing states will loose in November.

Class warfare only works now certain parts of the nation.
(Examples include: CA, MA, Madison, here in Portland, fortunately suburban areas are normal)

Everyone has the ultimate "right" in the workplace - QUIT if you feel you are being "abused."
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Unread 06-04-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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If we were to move back to WI tomorrow, my entire family would for Walker for no other reason other than to send a message about the abuse of the recall process that was done for no other reason than sore losers losing their gravy.

So what happens next ... will there be a recall attempt for every unpopular decision made by any elected official?

Also look who is crying wolf about outside influences ... seemed it didn't bother the Democrats when people from NY bought cigarettes for the homeless in exchange to "get out the vote" and for voter registration of people with none existent addresses and college students doing multiple vote attempts and people from IL with lake property in WI voting twice ..........
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Unread 06-04-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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I think it is interesting that no body has bashed the beloved Packers? All of the Packers are in a union. one that is pretty socialist at that. Revenue sharing in the NFL is part of the deal. How many NFL players have made millions while overwhelmingly performing very poorly? I see that that Packer stadium has sold out will sell out every home game for many years to come. The owners of the NFL have held communities hostage by saying they will leave if you don't pay for the stadium. Everyone is paying for the owners of the NFL teams to have all the cake ad eat it too. But, I guess it's okay for the American version of Fascism to exist right before our eyes.

At least I know never to spend any money in Wisconsin. Wisconsin deserves all the misery it gets.
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Unread 06-04-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Walker's Point, Milwaukee
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I think it is interesting that no body has bashed the beloved Packers? All of the Packers are in a union. one that is pretty socialist at that. Revenue sharing in the NFL is part of the deal. How many NFL players have made millions while overwhelmingly performing very poorly? I see that that Packer stadium has sold out will sell out every home game for many years to come. The owners of the NFL have held communities hostage by saying they will leave if you don't pay for the stadium. Everyone is paying for the owners of the NFL teams to have all the cake ad eat it too. But, I guess it's okay for the American version of Fascism to exist right before our eyes.
Apples and Bowling Balls
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