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Old 04-09-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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The problem with this formulation is that the 4-lane expansion keeps marching further and further north. It's now 4-lane limited-access clear past Tomahawk. I expect it'll be 4 lanes all the way to Minocqua within 20 years.
And why would they need to expand it to 4 lanes up to Minocqua when the area hasn't seen any population growth? It makes no sense.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: East Side Milwaukee
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And why would they need to expand it to 4 lanes up to Minocqua when the area hasn't seen any population growth? It makes no sense.
Exactly, it doesn't make any sense. Roadbuilders grease the palms of politicians, then we get 4 lanes to everywhere... needed or not. Sounds great until it comes time to pay for it, then the northern half of the state gets real quiet.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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And why would they need to expand it to 4 lanes up to Minocqua when the area hasn't seen any population growth? It makes no sense.
Because it's a major artery from the populated areas to the resort areas. Have you tried taking 51 up north during a weekend lately, particularly Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, etc.? It's like the NASCAR with boats in tow.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Because it's a major artery from the populated areas to the resort areas. Have you tried taking 51 up north during a weekend lately, particularly Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, etc.? It's like the NASCAR with boats in tow.
That is true, but the region is very far removed from populated areas in terms of distance. It will likely just encourage more development as the expansion of highways always do...
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Chapin SC
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growing up in Milwaukee, a trip to Montello was "heading up north". Then living in Montello as a teen, a trip north was to Mountain/Lakewood. All back when hwy 51 was 2 lanes only (come on you older folk, remember those long trips in a car with no ac and on vinyl seats? i cant be the only one who suffered lol).
But as an adult when in Madison, to me the north was the northwoods, as noted earlier anywhere from Wausau or Merrill on up. And after all the tourism that built over the years up there, i could not imagine how bad it would be on some weekends if the entire stretch to get there was still 2 lanes. Heck 4 lanes can get to be stop and go...
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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That is true, but the region is very far removed from populated areas in terms of distance. It will likely just encourage more development as the expansion of highways always do...
The development was already happening, most notably hospitality development. For years the widening project was well behind the development curve and traffic on 51 would be crawling at 5mph for as far as the eye could see on busy weekends. Unlike the ludicrous 376-lane U.S. 41 super-highway project by Green Bay, the incremental 51 widening project is a borderline necessity to keep the tourism and hospitality industry healthy and vital; and let's face it, that's about the only halfway-vital industry left up there.
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Chapin SC
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, the incremental 51 widening project is a borderline necessity to keep the tourism and hospitality industry healthy and vital; because let's face it, that's about the only halfway-vital industry left up there.
and knowing that, when they have a mild winter (no snow for machines or skiing) or summer is not as nice, that can really take a toll on the dollars brought thru there. I remember a winter around the late 90's that had very little snow there, so bad the northwoods was losing like a million bucks a day from missed tourism.... and if that is now one of their main revenue sources, boy i'd hate to see it up there in a bad year now...
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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and knowing that, when they have a mild winter (no snow for machines or skiing) or summer is not as nice, that can really take a toll on the dollars brought thru there. I remember a winter around the late 90's that had very little snow there, so bad the northwoods was losing like a million bucks a day from missed tourism.... and if that is now one of their main revenue sources, boy i'd hate to see it up there in a bad year now...
It's a tough area to scratch out a living. That's a fair part of why the full-time population in many northern counties has been steadily declining.
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Chapin SC
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It's a tough area to scratch out a living. That's a fair part of why the full-time population in many northern counties has been steadily declining.
and i know from when i've been up there or had family up there--they could hate the influx of tourists on "their" roads and lakes..... but the flip side to no tourists is no money. And a good middle ground never seemed to exist
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Being the I Live in Wausau, Up Nort is north of Hwy 64 for me. I believe that is where the Bass regulations are drawn as well.
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